Tentative earnings list..

[Kasept]

1 Regal Ransom $1,250,000
2 Pioneerof the Nile $1,193,250
3 Square Eddie $774,981 Lexington Probable
4 I Want Revenge $774,000
5 Papa Clem $760,000
6 Desert Party $641,667
7 Quality Road $600,000
8 General Quarters $595,645
9 Friesan Fire $570,465
10 Musket Man $485,000

11 Hold Me Back $438,000
12 West Side Bernie $385,160
13 Chocolate Candy $370,000
14 Win Willy $230,000
15 Giant Oak $169,256
16 Dunkirk $150,000
17 Charitable Man $150,000
18 Flying Private $124,000
19 Mr. Hot Stuff $114,000
20 KDKC* Maafaz
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20* Summer Bird $100,000
21 Join in the Dance $90,000
22 Flying Pegasus $90,000
23 Take the Points $85,000
24 Atomic Rain $77,500
25 Just A Coincidence $75,000
26 Imperial Council $72,500

[Payson Dave]

I'm guessing that based upon his comments to Mike & Mark this morning (actually yesterday) KM will not be looking to keep Charitable Man headed for the Derby.

[randallscott35]

I would say Dunkirk is safe even with the Lex still to go.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I would say Dunkirk is safe even with the Lex still to go.

especially with old fashioned now out.

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

especially with old fashioned now out.

Along with Regal Randsom most likely not going either.

[PatCummings]

With Old Fashioned and The Pamplemousse out, I think Regal Ransom is more likely to go now than at any other previous time on the Derby trail. Godolphin said initially that both could go and would ship, but maybe one to the Derby and one to the Preakness.

They are both at Churchill now, and have been for a few days, and I think they might be encouraged to send both if they are training well.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Kasept

1 Regal Ransom $1,250,000
2 Pioneerof the Nile $1,193,250
3 Square Eddie $774,981
4 I Want Revenge $774,000
5 Papa Clem $760,000
6 Desert Party $641,667
7 Quality Road $600,000
8 General Quarters $595,645
9 Friesan Fire $570,465
10 Musket Man $485,000

11 Terrain $448,330
12 Hold Me Back $438,000
13 West Side Bernie $385,160
14 Chocolate Candy $370,000
15 Win Willy $230,000
16 Giant Oak $169,256
17 Charitable Man $150,000
18 Dunkirk $150,000
19 Theregoesjojo $133,063
20 KDKC* Maafaz
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21 Flying Private $124,000
22 Massone $115,000
23 Mr. Hot Stuff $114,000
24 Summer Bird $100,000
25 Join in the Dance $90,000
26 Flying Pegasus $90,000
27 Take the Points $85,000
28 Atomic Rain $77,500
29 Just A Coincidence $75,000
30 Imperial Council $72,500

Charitable Man's connections confirmed today that they are off the Derby Trail, and I believe Terrain, Win Willy, Giant Oak, Regal Ransom and Maafaz are all still undecided. Interesting that it could take close to only 100K in graded earnings to get in this year.

[Scav]

I will be shocked if Giant Oak doesn't go to the Derby. My guess is his work next week will be really good and they will go

[blackthroatedwind]

Charitable Man is out of the Derby? I wonder if they will change their minds if he runs well in either of his next two starts, obviously the Lexington and Withers, as clearly what he really needs is three pre-Derby starts to get into condition.

I just hope this year's e-mail gets wide distribution.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Charitable Man is out of the Derby? I wonder if they will change their minds if he runs well in either of his next two starts, obviously the Lexington and Withers, as clearly what he really needs is three pre-Derby starts to get into condition.

I just hope this year's e-mail gets wide distribution.

Guess Kiaran is wearing the DUNCE CAP.

[Ogygian]

Is JoJo going to the Derby even though he stopped badly in the Bluegrass?

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by Scav

I will be shocked if Giant Oak doesn't go to the Derby. My guess is his work next week will be really good and they will go

i was actually thinking the exact opposite. thought the illi derby was a must win, also if i remember correctly read something along the lines of the connections being more likely on the side of NOT running in the derby, but can't recall where


hail yeah.... dunkirk is in...... the dunkirk vs. quality road rematch battle royal, everyone else is just battling for 3rd place money

-bt-

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by Ogygian

Is JoJo going to the Derby even though he stopped badly in the Bluegrass?

They are now just concentrating on prepping him for the Arc.

[mbahadur]

Originally Posted by Ogygian

Is JoJo going to the Derby even though he stopped badly in the Bluegrass?

Off the Derby trail per Privman article on DRF.com due to "a stifle problem that plagued him as a 2-year-old flare anew, according to trainer Ken McPeek."

Mr. Hot Stuff may now have enough earnings to get in as I don't think Massone is even nominated to the Triple Crown (connections stated they were pointing for the Snow Chief Stakes).

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by mbahadur

Off the Derby trail per Privman article on DRF.com due to "a stifle problem that plagued him as a 2-year-old flare anew, according to trainer Ken McPeek."

Mr. Hot Stuff may now have enough earnings to get in as I don't think Massone is even nominated to the Triple Crown (connections stated they were pointing for the Snow Chief Stakes).

I hope so. . .

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

I'm guessing that based upon his comments to Mike & Mark this morning (actually yesterday) KM will not be looking to keep Charitable Man headed for the Derby.

Nope. Travers focus from what I hear.

[Sightseek]

Terrain is not Derby bound...at least in KY.

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Charitable Man is out of the Derby? I wonder if they will change their minds if he runs well in either of his next two starts, obviously the Lexington and Withers, as clearly what he really needs is three pre-Derby starts to get into condition.

I just hope this year's e-mail gets wide distribution.

Lighten up on the guy. He gave it a shot. You know you aren't right all the time either. Let's see there's Counter Move a couple back, Saarlight, Dream Play twice now. We all can make mistakes in this game.

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by mbahadur

Off the Derby trail per Privman article on DRF.com due to "a stifle problem that plagued him as a 2-year-old flare anew, according to trainer Ken McPeek."

Is this a by-product of running back so soon from FLA? Too bad either way.

[Kasept]

AS OF 4/15/09:

1 Regal Ransom $1,250,000
2 Pioneerof the Nile $1,193,250
3 Square Eddie $774,981 Lexington Probable
4 I Want Revenge $774,000
5 Papa Clem $760,000
6 Desert Party $641,667
7 Quality Road $600,000
8 General Quarters $595,645
9 Friesan Fire $570,465
10 Musket Man $485,000

11 Hold Me Back $438,000
12 West Side Bernie $385,160
13 Chocolate Candy $370,000
14 Win Willy $230,000
15 Giant Oak $169,256
16 Dunkirk $150,000
17 Charitable Man $150,000
18 Flying Private $124,000
19 Mr. Hot Stuff $114,000
20 KDKC* Maafaz
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20* Summer Bird $100,000
21 Join in the Dance $90,000
22 Flying Pegasus $90,000
23 Take the Points $85,000
24 Atomic Rain $77,500
25 Just A Coincidence $75,000
26 Imperial Council $72,500