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Old 05-27-2009, 11:33 AM
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Default RunfortheDoe wins Oaklawn Handicap?

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...wn-handicap-dq
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:41 AM
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how surprising
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:45 AM
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That improves the field for this past Monday's Met Mile!
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:49 AM
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I am sure it was an honest mistake or a case of sabotage
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:50 AM
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pretty mild medication. banned nonetheless
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:50 AM
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The Paulo Lobo magic.
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:54 AM
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pretty mild medication. banned nonetheless
Doesn't matter what impact the medication has. It's against the rules in the jurisdiction, that's cheating. Wolfson's now been caught twice, once in Chicago and now in Arkansas. But hey, he wins at 25% on strictly hay and oats. We knew that.
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:55 AM
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Ironically, Wolfson was mightly outspoken when Beyer wrote that article about Florida move-up trainers.
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:57 AM
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Ironically, Wolfson was mightly outspoken when Beyer wrote that article about Florida move-up trainers.
Come on, anyone can move horses up off of Pletcher and Mott. They don't know anything about training. Mott gave up the Breeders Cup Mile winner to Wolfson.
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:58 AM
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Come on, anyone can move horses up off of Pletcher and Mott. They don't know anything about training. Mott gave up the Breeders Cup Mile winner to Wolfson.
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Old 05-27-2009, 12:08 PM
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Doesn't matter what impact the medication has. It's against the rules in the jurisdiction, that's cheating. Wolfson's now been caught twice, once in Chicago and now in Arkansas. But hey, he wins at 25% on strictly hay and oats. We knew that.
Agreed.

It doesn't make a good account of his honesty if he will bend the rules for this naproxin, he may for a more powerful drug as well.
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Old 05-27-2009, 12:12 PM
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And this is the big and central problem in this game is that Wolfson will get nothing but a slap on the wrist for this. He'll be suspended for like 7 days, and his assistant will win at 25% while he's gone, he'll come back and the barn will be firing on all cylinders at will win again at 25%. This is an instance where racing needs to stand up and get tough. The guy had a horse disqualified because of a drug positive in Chicago. Suspend him for 6 months or a year. When they suspend him for 7 days, he'll come back, and he'll have all his stock back again. Gann should take the horses he owns away from him. That might resonate.
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Old 05-27-2009, 12:13 PM
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That improves the field for this past Monday's Met Mile!

Very good.
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Old 05-27-2009, 01:50 PM
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This Wolfson guy is real unlucky....a lot of guys use stuff like this but he manages to get caught. I feel for him.
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Old 05-27-2009, 03:34 PM
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Might as well make this thread a sticky. He'll get a slap on the wrist and get busted again down the road....zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Old 05-27-2009, 03:58 PM
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And this is the big and central problem in this game is that Wolfson will get nothing but a slap on the wrist for this. He'll be suspended for like 7 days, and his assistant will win at 25% while he's gone, he'll come back and the barn will be firing on all cylinders at will win again at 25%. This is an instance where racing needs to stand up and get tough. The guy had a horse disqualified because of a drug positive in Chicago. Suspend him for 6 months or a year. When they suspend him for 7 days, he'll come back, and he'll have all his stock back again. Gann should take the horses he owns away from him. That might resonate.

Jersey are you suprised? This cheat has improved horses off of great trainers for the last few years. He is the Scott lake/Jeff Mullins of Florida. Hopefully they give him a long suspension. Guys like Wolfson are bad for the game.
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Old 05-27-2009, 04:08 PM
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this horse shoes were the wrong size and he most likely added a tongue tie
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Old 05-27-2009, 04:41 PM
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What, now everyone else on the board things Wolfson actually does cheat after all?

What happened in the last three months for such a drastic change of public opinion?
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Old 05-27-2009, 04:42 PM
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this horse shoes were the wrong size and he most likely added a tongue tie
Good one! I was thinking maybe the horse was unhappy with how his mane was styled, but your explanation seems more plausible!
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Old 05-27-2009, 05:15 PM
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does this put runforthedoe as the second best older horse now behind einstein?
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