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Old 06-02-2009, 11:08 PM
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Keep waiting on his season to turn around...but I think I'm done holding my breath. Where did the bat speed go??

.185 avg with 1 HR in 178 at bats
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Old 06-02-2009, 11:23 PM
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Got old quick. This is the case of many big/overweight slugger without..."supplements". Look at cecil fielder. Same type of Rapid decline.
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:06 AM
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Got old quick. This is the case of many big/overweight slugger without..."supplements". Look at cecil fielder. Same type of Rapid decline.
Yeah right.
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:31 AM
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Yeah right.
Do you think he never did them or that he was using them before and now that he is off of them his numbers are going down the tubes?
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:07 AM
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Do you think he never did them or that he was using them before and now that he is off of them his numbers are going down the tubes?
The latter. The dude gained a million pounds and almost instantly began hitting .300-40-130 every year. Fat doesn't increase your power like that. He's only 33, he shouldn't be breaking down naturally yet.
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Old 06-03-2009, 08:38 AM
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Interesting take on the subject from the sports guy. I dont know if i agree but still an interesting read:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=4223584
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Interesting take on the subject from the sports guy. I dont know if i agree but still an interesting read:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=4223584
I'm shocked, SHOCKED that he has a hundred excuses for Ortiz rather than PEDs. It's not like he's a Boston homer or anything.
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Old 06-03-2009, 10:39 AM
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Not having Manny behind him doesn't help his case either.
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Old 06-03-2009, 10:47 AM
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I never bought into the fact you have to have a superstar batting behind you to do your job well. Especially for someone as great as Ortiz. Is Jason Bay not a good replacement?! What hasnt he done in Manny's absence? The guy has been every bit as good, if not better.

I have no explanation for why Ortiz is behaving the way he is.

Maybe he is like Funny Cide and no longer loves the game.

But then again I am a Boston homer!
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Old 06-03-2009, 10:52 AM
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I never bought into the fact you have to have a superstar batting behind you to do your job well. Especially for someone as great as Ortiz. Is Jason Bay not a good replacement?! What hasnt he done in Manny's absence? The guy has been every bit as good, if not better.

I have no explanation for why Ortiz is behaving the way he is.

Maybe he is like Funny Cide and no longer loves the game.

But then again I am a Boston homer!
Jason Bay has been dynamite, but I think that pitchers don't fear him like they do with Manny.
Texieria and the whole team for that matter has been much better since A-Rod has been back in the lineup. Like I said, not a knock against Bay, but he's no Manny.
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I'm shocked, SHOCKED that he has a hundred excuses for Ortiz rather than PEDs. It's not like he's a Boston homer or anything.
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Keep waiting on his season to turn around...but I think I'm done holding my breath. Where did the bat speed go??

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