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Old 06-04-2006, 11:03 AM
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Thats A Given's work this morning was not good enough in Jerkens and Lansdon's opinion that it justifies running him in the Belmont Stakes. He will instead run next in a non winners of one other than allowance race. he always does what is prudent when it involves his horses.
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:08 AM
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Have to respect horsemen who do what is best for the horse....

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Old 06-04-2006, 11:10 AM
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Have to respect horsemen who do what is best for the horse....

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He always does what is best for the horse. The work this morning was not satisfactory, so he will pass so as not to harm his future development. Non winners of one it is.
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:18 AM
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He always does what is best for the horse. The work this morning was not satisfactory, so he will pass so as not to harm his future development. Non winners of one it is.
What does a trainer look for in a workout? How do they determine that a horse is ready?
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:24 AM
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What does a trainer look for in a workout? How do they determine that a horse is ready?

Its not just raw time. Several factors involved, how they move, and how they finish as well. Lets just say that if a horse works 7F and doesnt finish it well, you don't wanna send him a mile and a half. Time isnt the only issue.
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:28 AM
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Does the fact that the workout wasn't satisfactory mean that you want to get another work in before the NW1 race???

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Old 06-04-2006, 11:29 AM
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Bummer, but now I will really look forward to where they run him next. Any chance there is a non-winner of one listed for Belmont Day?
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:30 AM
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Bummer, but now I will really look forward to where they run him next. Any chance there is a non-winner of one listed for Belmont Day?
There is one the day before, and his work wasnt bad, its just that when you are gonna step one up that much, you are looking for a spectacular move, not a good one.
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:35 AM
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There is one the day before, and his work wasnt bad, its just that when you are gonna step one up that much, you are looking for a spectacular move, not a good one.
Thanks for the response. That is some useful info.
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:41 AM
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Thanks for the response. That is some useful info.
No problem Kona, looking at todays stuff now. Hope we have some useful info there.
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:42 AM
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There is one the day before, and his work wasnt bad, its just that when you are gonna step one up that much, you are looking for a spectacular move, not a good one.
Sure, I understand, and I completely agree. Thanks for the update!!
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:48 AM
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Sure, I understand, and I completely agree. Thanks for the update!!
Well it wasnt the update I was hoping to give, but Lans is going on a vacation this morning and will be tied up so he asked me to let you all know. its the right thing to do though.
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Thats A Given's work this morning was not good enough in Jerkens and Lansdon's opinion that it justifies running him in the Belmont Stakes. He will instead run next in a non winners of one other than allowance race. he always does what is prudent when it involves his horses.

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Old 06-04-2006, 12:43 PM
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Was hoping he would run, but its the right thing if everyone involved agrees.
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