7/11 (BEL): Man o' War (G1); Guaranteed $350k P4

[Kasept]

7th (4:12) Man o' War S. (G1)

1 3/8 Miles (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Musketier (GER) Jones J 116 L
2 Grand Couturier (GB) Garcia Alan 120 L
3 Quijano (GER) Starke A 123
4 Marsh Side Castellano J J 120 L
5 Interpatation Luzzi M J 116 L
6 Chinchon (IRE) Maragh R 116
7 Midships Espinoza V 123 L
8 Dancing Forever Velazquez J R 120 L
9 Gio Ponti Dominguez R A 123 L



8th (4:44) Lottsa Talc S.

7 Furlongs (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $65,000

1 Karakorum Fugitive Coa E M 115 L
2 Them There Eyes Espinoza J L 121 L
3 Meriwether Jessica Velasquez C 121 L
4 Mohegan Sky Dominguez R A 121 L
5 Here Comes Rita Maragh R 121 L
6 Weathered Luzzi M J 121 L
7 Canadian Ballet Garcia Alan 121 L
8 Absoulute Heaven Velazquez J R 119 L



9th (5:17)

6 Furlongs (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $43,000

1 Onzain Velazquez J R 118 L
2 Livin Large Castellano J J 118 L
3 Rock and Rune Espinoza J L 118 FTL
4 Lightning Dreams Bermudez J E 113 L
5 Jacob's Dream Arroyo N Jr 118 L
6 Fort McCoy Velasquez C 123 L
7 Goodandacceptable Arriaga A 118
8 One Turn Eddie Coa E M 118 FTL
9 Roma Di Notte Morales S 123 L


10th (5:49)

7 Furlongs (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Claiming ($25,000) | Purse: $22,000

1 Skyebay Arroyo N Jr 121 $25,000 L
2 Kick Up Your Heels Samyn J L 121 $25,000 L
3 Show Me the Cash Castellano J J 117 $25,000 L
4 Wayoutsidethebox Espinoza J L 121 $25,000 L
5 Suite Ernie B Coa E M 121 $25,000 L
6 Bartletts Luzzi M J 121 $25,000 L
7 Masterofthehouse Morales S 123 $25,000 L
8 Wild Way Garcia Alan 121 $25,000 L
9 Bordeaux Bandit Dominguez R A 121 $25,000 L
10 City Sneakers Velasquez C 121 $25,000 L
11 Intercoastal Castanon J L 121 $25,000 L
12 Mackinaw Casey A J 114 $25,000 L
MTO Sir Mott Casey A J 121 $25,000 L
MTO Timber Cruise Velasquez C 121 $25,000 L

A-Coupled: Suite Ernie B and City Sneakers

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Kasept

7th (4:12) Man o' War S. (G1)

1 3/8 Miles (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Musketier (GER) Jones J 116 L
2 Grand Couturier (GB) Garcia Alan 120 L
3 Quijano (GER) Starke A 123
4 Marsh Side Castellano J J 120 L
5 Interpatation Luzzi M J 116 L
6 Chinchon (IRE) Maragh R 116
7 Midships Espinoza V 123 L
8 Dancing Forever Velazquez J R 120 L
9 Gio Ponti Dominguez R A 123 L

one of my favorite races

is this Midships first try out east? I haven't been following him closely enough IIRC he won a couple of big races (hopefully he won his last out) out west on the pace? Cool enough field.

[my miss storm cat]

Quijano looked really good last month (at San Siro) after being kinda disappointing at Nad al but God... anyone remember the ten in a row he won a few years back?

I'm glad Starke has the mount.

Haven't looked at pp's yet but he's my sentimental pick.

[Travis Stone]

The fields for the past two runnings of the Man O War would have never been so strong with its old spot on the calendar. One of the best stakes moves ever for NYRA.

[the_fat_man]

Is Campo out of town? I notice they've actually carded a race beyond 9F on the turf at BEL.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Is Campo out of town? I notice they've actually carded a race beyond 9F on the turf at BEL.

He said something about a Trackus Field Trip sponsored by The Fat Man. I cannot find a story to confirm these reports.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

He said something about a Trackus Field Trip sponsored by The Fat Man. I cannot find a story to confirm these reports.

Yeah

The Fat Man is well entrenched with his buddy Trakus over at WO. I get all the 5F, 5.5F, 6F, 6.5F, 7F... 10F, etc. races I can handle over there. Now, there's someone who understands that racing is MORE interesting when races are carded over different distances (even slightly different ones). Campo would be well served to follow him.

All that accurate data is icing.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Yeah

The Fat Man is well entrenched with his buddy Trakus over at WO. I get all the 5F, 6F, 6.5F, 7F... 10F, etc. races I can handle over there. Now, there's someone who understands that racing is MORE interesting when races are carded over different distances (even slightly different ones).

Not to mention all that accurate data.

We looked into at LAD, it's very costly... hard to justify at this point in time.

One could argue making it a "league" purchase like replay systems in the NFL or other various technologies if horse racing were healthy.

[the_fat_man]

You gotta give me a couple of minutes to edit my posts. FatMan Productions is a ONE man operation.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

We looked into at LAD, it's very costly... hard to justify at this point in time.

One could argue making it a "league" purchase like replay systems in the NFL or other various technologies if horse racing were healthy.

You know why it's hard to justify? Because all the know it all horseplayers are focusing their efforts on all the other peripheral ****. It's all about lowering takeout, cleaning up the drugs, the ADW issues, etc.

There's only ONE issue for the horseplayer: accurate data. If you get accurate data and still can't win, you shouldn't be in the game. Unfortunately, and probably, all those begging for all the other changes probably realize this and, as a group, horseplayers will never make it their number one priority. Which means that tracks won't either. I mean, let's face it, what would tracks rather do, pay for Trakus or lower takeout?

[hockey2315]

10-1 on Quijano is likely

I'm totally against him, but I don't really see how he's not bet as one of the favorites.

The other Euro is a much more likely winner.

[Gander]

Tough race to predict odds on, here goes mine:

1 Musketier 25/1
2 Grand Couturier 6/1
3 Quijano 8/1
4 Marsh Side 8/1
5 Interpatation 40/1
6 Chinchon 12/1
7 Midships 7/2
8 Dancing Forever 4/1
9 Gio Ponti 9/5

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

10-1 on Quijano is likely

I'm totally against him, but I don't really see how he's not bet as one of the favorites.

The other Euro is a much more likely winner.

That horse doesn't exactly have a nose for the wire.

NT

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

That horse doesn't exactly have a nose for the wire.

NT

You're right. But his last two were pretty nice against some very good horses.

[Gander]

This is top to bottom a true Grade 1. You can make a case for just about anybody, and the horse most likely to be the chalk (Gio Ponti) may not want this distance. I dont like him or Midships in this spot, that I know. The Euros are always a guess and never win for me, which leads me to: Grand Couturier, Marsh SIde and Dancing Forever.

Who do you think of these 3 has the best shot?

[Sightseek]

Good article by Crist about race names:

http://www.drf.com/drfNewsArticle.do...6&subs=0&arc=0

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Gander

This is top to bottom a true Grade 1. You can make a case for just about anybody, and the horse most likely to be the chalk (Gio Ponti) may not want this distance. I dont like him or Midships in this spot, that I know. The Euros are always a guess and never win for me, which leads me to: Grand Couturier, Marsh SIde and Dancing Forever.

Who do you think of these 3 has the best shot?

Wow just goes to show you how horrendous US based Turf running are.. Please this is dog biscuit city save Gio Ponte

[CSC]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

You're right. But his last two were pretty nice against some very good horses.

My opinion regarding Quijano from personal exp and without looking at the pp's mind you is he is the type of horse you bet and more than likely he will find a way to dissapoint now granted he has run in some very tough spots. But there is just enough of an uneasy feeling in me to not totally dismiss him, ie. his race in Hong Kong a few yrs ago. If he's long in odds I may be coerced into punching his button again .

[Gaelic Storm]

Dancing Forever will be very tough to beat. As the second or third choice he should be a good play for tri as he should be in the money.

[CSC]

Yeah, he's highly logical and an include in most pick 3's and 4's. In a field like this I'm just looking for a little more bang for the buck.