No more summer vacation?

[Cannon Shell]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090927/...us_more_school

I'm sure the Teachers Unions have nothing to do with this...

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090927/...us_more_school

I'm sure the Teachers Unions have nothing to do with this...

The School system....there's another unqualified success!

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

The School system....there's another unqualified success!

don't assume your example is universal.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

don't assume your example is universal.

I'm talking about the Public school system...the one where 95% of students are functionally illiterate. Not being able to fill out jobs apps is a real bitch!

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I'm talking about the Public school system...the one where 95% of students are functionally illiterate. Not being able to fill out jobs apps is a real bitch!

Tim...Even you have to admit that Dems care a whole lot more about Public Schools than righties

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Tim...Even you have to admit that Dems care a whole lot more about Public Schools than righties

What exactly can this be based on? Concessions to teachers unions? What the Democrats dont seem to care about is the private schools that consistently massively outperform public schools by killing time after time any legislative help for an expansion of these schools. Of course those schools arent mandated to hire union teachers and as such the teachers unuions lobby hard AGAINST funding or tax breaks for these schools. The practices of teachers unions have helped create the debacle that public schools have become in many areas. And we know whose pockets they are in.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I'm talking about the Public school system...the one where 95% of students are functionally illiterate. Not being able to fill out jobs apps is a real bitch!

95%? LOL...Now, you're just making sht up like a good Conservative? Be consistent here. You do you want the Gov't involved with schooling? If you're consistent, then seems a good Conservative would want all private schools, and no public money involved in it.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

95%? LOL...Now, you're just making sht up like a good Conservative?

That was probably a little high....was a stat I saw awhile ago...75 anyway

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Tim...Even you have to admit that Dems care a whole lot more about Public Schools than righties

The Dems have been feeding at that trough for decades!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090927/...us_more_school

I'm sure the Teachers Unions have nothing to do with this...

Geesh, they've been talking about this for the past 40 years ....

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I'm talking about the Public school system...the one where 95% of students are functionally illiterate. Not being able to fill out jobs apps is a real bitch!

Guess you are unfortunate enough to live in a place where those stats are true.

I grew up at public schools, absolutely terrific, where 65-70% of the kids went on to college. Good tax base.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

That was probably a little high....was a stat I saw awhile ago...75 anyway

You made my day (too funny.)

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

95%? LOL...Now, you're just making sht up like a good Conservative? Be consistent here. You do you want the Gov't involved with schooling? If you're consistent, then seems a good Conservative would want all private schools, and no public money involved in it.

Based on test results everyone should want all private schools

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Geesh, they've been talking about this for the past 40 years ....

who has?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Based on test results everyone should want all private schools

Seems a difficult thing to measure. The private schools probably have more of the better students to begin with. Wouldn't you need to somehow test the private school kids in the public school environment? I mean, for some reason, you think you can compare totally different groups of people that are in different situations. Wouldn't you need to test the same students in both situations (public n' private.)

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What exactly can this be based on? Concessions to teachers unions? What the Democrats dont seem to care about is the private schools that consistently massively outperform public schools by killing time after time any legislative help for an expansion of these schools. Of course those schools arent mandated to hire union teachers and as such the teachers unuions lobby hard AGAINST funding or tax breaks for these schools. The practices of teachers unions have helped create the debacle that public schools have become in many areas. And we know whose pockets they are in.

chuck ny state teachers pension fund lost over 8 billion last year in the mkt meltdown , well who makes that up ???? the taxpayer does because the pension fund is guaranteed by ny state law .... well what in the world were they doing with 70% of the $ in the stock mkt , shouldn't it be in cash , i am not against the penisons the teachers get , but when the taxpayer has to subsidize their losses it ain't right.... a lot of people who make what teacher make in ny 50 - 100k are not getting their 401k 's made whole

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

who has?

Every school district I've ever been in contact with. Especially the deeply GOP one I grew up within.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090927/...us_more_school

I'm sure the Teachers Unions have nothing to do with this...

it's kind of funny....
when you say teachers make plenty since they only work half the year, they jump up and say 'that's not true, we have summer workshops, etc etc'. but then when it's mentioned there should be a full school year, teachers say they'd need a raise for their extra time.

so....which is it? they work, or they don't?

[randallscott35]

Yawn

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Every school district I've ever been in contact with. Especially the deeply GOP one I grew up within.

Didnt know you were so deeply involved with school districts internal policies. You are well rounded. Where do you find the time?