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Old 12-15-2009, 07:59 PM
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3,500...this horse was a glorified claimer..imo
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Old 12-15-2009, 08:28 PM
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3,500...this horse was a glorified claimer..imo

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Old 12-15-2009, 09:41 PM
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3,500...this horse was a glorified claimer..imo

Saarland and Pure Prize wherent exactly stars on the track either.. Both seemed to be headed for nice careers at stud. Remember Shug isn't exactly the most aggressive trainer in the industry.
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:43 AM
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He ran wll on Poly and if that tendency, like grass ability is comething his foals could inherit, he could do OK. He's got a ton of family. I wonder who will be breeding to him.
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:51 AM
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most of them are too high. pioneerof the nile immediately comes to my mind when thinking of the subject. what's col john starting at-i bet he's overpriced as well.

when the phone doesn't ring, it'll go down. but yeah, he has an impeccable pedigree. but a lot of horses have nice bloodlines, and are standing in obscurity for next to nothing.
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:55 AM
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He ran wll on Poly and if that tendency, like grass ability is comething his foals could inherit, he could do OK. He's got a ton of family. I wonder who will be breeding to him.
He sucked and was slow. Saarland never ran a fast race and
has had a few that look decent. Pure Prize has popped a few as well. I am never objective when it come to Phipps so my opinion is completely jaded.
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:03 AM
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The US-based first-year sires for next year is a below average. The foreign line-up (Sea the Stars etc.) is stronger. When there's a weak line-up you can take a shot with some of them at a higher stud fee.
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:04 AM
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He sucked and was slow. Saarland never ran a fast race and
has had a few that look decent. Pure Prize has popped a few as well. I am never objective when it come to Phipps so my opinion is completely jaded.
Pure Prize is a useful sire and offers good value.
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:09 AM
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The US-based first-year sires for next year is a below average. The foreign line-up (Sea the Stars etc.) is stronger. When there's a weak line-up you can take a shot with some of them at a higher stud fee.
What does European market have to do with Ky? How many mares get sent from the US to Europe to be bred? Maybe some of the Euro mares that raced here and perhaps a few were owners race on both continient but other then that who ships for stud service?
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What does European market have to do with Ky? How many mares get sent from the US to Europe to be bred? Maybe some of the Euro mares that raced here and perhaps a few were owners race on both continient but other then that who ships for stud service?
I was just using that as a point to say the first-year sire line-up is not completely dead across the board worldwide. There is no significant correlation.
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Old 12-16-2009, 11:39 AM
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Because the market is so bad, maybe we'll see more horses stay in training. If so, I'm not shocked that it's a poor bunch entering stud this year.
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3.50....There you go.
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What does European market have to do with Ky? How many mares get sent from the US to Europe to be bred? Maybe some of the Euro mares that raced here and perhaps a few were owners race on both continient but other then that who ships for stud service?
What does the Sea the Stars/Kickin N Screamin nick look like?
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:55 PM
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What does the Sea the Stars/Kickin N Screamin nick look like?
i doubt she'd hold still long enough for him to do the deed.
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Old 12-16-2009, 01:15 PM
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They want 4K for Benny The Bull..
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:30 PM
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What does the Sea the Stars/Kickin N Screamin nick look like?
Tiger mounting hooch number 3
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They want 4K for Benny The Bull..
I think 4K would buy Lucky Lionel.
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:05 PM
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I think 4K would buy Lucky Lionel.
With a little left over for shipping!
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:50 AM
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Tiger mounting hooch number 3
that horse starts saturday....tiger hoochie
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