Would the BC angle apply to Justwhistledixie?

[letswastemoney]

Here we have an accomplished eastern based dirt horse making her first start on SA pro ride.

Knowing the results of the BC races over the past 2 years, wouldn't Justwhistledixie be a risky play? Or perhaps this field isn't that great to begin with, so maybe she will win anyway?

[mbahadur]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Here we have an accomplished eastern based dirt horse making her first start on SA pro ride.

Knowing the results of the BC races over the past 2 years, wouldn't Justwhistledixie be a risky play? Or perhaps this field isn't that great to begin with, so maybe she will win anyway?

For having no synthetic experience, she won't be much value. I don't think Stardom Bound has progressed at all since last year -- therefore, this field looks to be wide open with many good prices to be had.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Here we have an accomplished eastern based dirt horse making her first start on SA pro ride.

Knowing the results of the BC races over the past 2 years, wouldn't Justwhistledixie be a risky play? Or perhaps this field isn't that great to begin with, so maybe she will win anyway?

I think she's a terrible play at a short price. I like the snake charmer's runner from off the pace with all the speed in here outside.

[pba1817]

Nice field... how is this a G2?

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by pba1817

Nice field... how is this a G2?

good question........a 40 optional claimer won at 29-1.....now i know why i avoid the poly. "dixie" hated it and the 5 time grade 1 winner ran late. the horse that won looked like garbage. its possible that there are about 3 good horses on the entire circuit and thats because one of them came out of retirement......

[letswastemoney]

I guess the race answered my question. Avoid eastern based dirt horses trying pro ride for the first time.

[Indian Charlie]

Actually, Dixie isn't that good of a filly to begin with and tailed off pretty badly last year.

It will be interesting to see if she runs another lackluster race once back on dirt, which will be my guess.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I guess the race answered my question. Avoid eastern based dirt horses trying pro ride for the first time.

Might be better off just avoiding Pro-Ride altogether.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Actually, Dixie isn't that good of a filly to begin with and tailed off pretty badly last year.

It will be interesting to see if she runs another lackluster race once back on dirt, which will be my guess.

She may not be any good all in all but how did she tail off with one race in the final six months of the year where she narrowly missed in a G2.

Justwhistledixie, the 2009 Ky Oaks future book favorite, was the beneficiary of circumstances in both of her GP wins and obviously proved that she's not much horse when things don't go her way. I'm eagerly anticipating her going back to dirt at a 7f-1 mile race because her price is likely to be higher than it should, provided they make the West Point folks leave their wallets at the gate.

NT

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

good question........a 40 optional claimer won at 29-1.....now i know why i avoid the poly. "dixie" hated it and the 5 time grade 1 winner ran late. the horse that won looked like garbage. its possible that there are about 3 good horses on the entire circuit and thats because one of them came out of retirement......

That "40 optional claimer" was an An1x for Pretty Unusual and was her first off of a long layoff. Do you only read the last line of PPs? She was already a SW against Cal-bred company, but that doesn't count against open n1x conditions. And this race was the first time since that stakes win that she was ridden from far off the pace. Maybe with the big field, they figured they would get the fast pace that would make a move from far back the best bet.

Repeat after me - OC40/n1x-N means the horse is running in an open An1x, not for the claiming tag.

Stardom Bound went 6-wide while Pretty Unusual went inside between horses, so it was a good first off the layoff race for the grey, or second if you count the debacle behind a loose-on-an-easy-lead horse at Aqueduct. They don't come back fully fit, you know, and this was a prep race for the La Canada (tilde over the n). Dixie also had a (one-turn, less useful) race in Nov after many months off and had plenty of company up in the first flight.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

That "40 optional claimer" was an An1x for Pretty Unusual and was her first off of a long layoff. Do you only read the last line of PPs?

What was Johnny thinking?! Since she wasn't in for the tag, that means that the loss against first condition allowance or $40k claimers doesn't count.

Thus making her a contender in this Grade 2 event.

She was already a SW against Cal-bred company, but that doesn't count against open n1x conditions.

In a robust racehorse population it wouldn't be relevant in a Grade 2 race, either.

I guess there's no significance to the fact that the racing office makes a state-bred stakes inconsequential with regards to open races.

Repeat after me - OC40/n1x-N means the horse is running in an open An1x, not for the claiming tag.

Yep. Cuz they'd never risk running this filly in a claiming race.

Well, except for those first two races.

this was a prep race for the La Canada (tilde over the n).

And so the prep for the El Encino was an optional forty claimer (is there a U after the F?)?

Dixie also had a (one-turn, less useful) race in Nov after many months off and had plenty of company up in the first flight.

Never mind that the real prep for the El Encino, the La Brea, is around one turn.

[cannonman]

A bit difficult to grasp the meaning of your post, Rollo.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by cannonman

A bit difficult to grasp the meaning of your post, Rollo.

Which part? I like to talk in riddles.

[cannonman]

Sorry Rollo, newcomer, now understand it was a slam against the previous poster. To be honest though, you made less sense than "she" did. just saying

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by cannonman

Sorry Rollo, newcomer, now understand it was a slam against the previous poster. To be honest though, you made less sense than "she" did. just saying

She might have been more coherent in her wording than me as I was trying hard to pun and crack-wise, but make no mistake, the point of her post was utterly nonsensical.

Do you really think it made a world of difference to know whether or not Pretty Unusual was entered for the tag in her previous start prior to the El Encino? Not to mention it had nothing to do what Johnnypinwheel (the poster she was responding to) was trying to say.

[cannonman]

Sorry Rollo

But just for kicks,

Whether she was entered, tagged or not! Have you ever heard of a "conditon book"?

If so , can you explain yourself further here? Specifically, with the El Encino in mind. Thx.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by cannonman

Sorry Rollo

But just for kicks,

Whether she was entered, tagged or not! Have you ever heard of a "conditon book"?

If so , can you explain yourself further here? Specifically, with the El Encino in mind. Thx.

Let me just paraphrase the whole 3-post trilogy.

Johnny said racing sucks in CA because a horse that previously ran for a first level allowance-optional claimer (and lost I might add) was able to win a Grade 2 race (one level from the top) next time out. (FYI horses don't typically run in low level races--especially in a losing effort--and then win a top level race next time out)

Ann chimed in, in all her condescending glory, with the tidbit that yes, said horse ran in the first level allowance-optional claimer, but she was not entered for the tag (of course she wasn't, she was eligible for the first condition having never won an open race of any kind).

This suggested that her runner-up effort in the race was somehow better than it would have been had she run 2nd in the same race but with a tag attached to her name. This, and other pieces of form presented in a skewed fashion, served the underlying theme of Ann's post: That Pretty Unsual was an obvious contender in the El Encino off paper alone. A completely ludicrous suggestion, conveniently offered after the race.

Enraged by the odious "repeat after me" and "La Canada tilde" parts of her post, I in turn layed waste to the majority of the garbage that she presented.

The end.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by cannonman

Sorry Rollo

But just for kicks,

Whether she was entered, tagged or not! Have you ever heard of a "conditon book"?

If so , can you explain yourself further here? Specifically, with the El Encino in mind. Thx.

You tell him!

I love a poster that comes tearing out of the gate in his ( or her ) third post ( under this name at least ).