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Old 02-23-2010, 07:38 AM
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The Program
Alphie's Bet
Boulder Creek
Outlaw Man
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Setsuko
Wolf Tail
Viva Macho

Kettle River* (Possible but less likely)
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Is it sad that i have heard of not one of those horses?
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Is it sad that i have heard of not one of those horses?
You've never heard of Alphie's Bet?

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33115
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Didn't Baffert mention The Program on Monday's ATR?
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Kettle River may miss Sham start

A brief illness earlier this month may keep Kettle River from making his stakes debut in Saturday's $150,000 Sham Stakes at Santa Anita.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/110983.html
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I dont often go to the trip notes section lol

Even though we had a good "trip" notes section on the way back from Tampa the other day LOL
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The Program
Alphie's Bet
Boulder Creek
Outlaw Man
Privilaged
Setsuko
Wolf Tail
Viva Macho

Kettle River* (Possible but less likely)
What is this? A list of auto tosses if any of these make it to the derby? Boulder Creek is a hell of a Harness horse!!
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What is this? A list of auto tosses if any of these make it to the derby? Boulder Creek is on hell of a Harness horse!!
Machowsky's Nextdoorneighbor is OK and has upside after three solid performances. He's an Amerman homebred that should move up on dirt when the time comes considering Lido Palace's dirt v. synth win numbers (14% on dirt; 8% on synthetic). Dam Fencelineneighbor was a nice route-going stakes mare too.
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http://www.drf.com/news/article/110983.html
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This didn't even used to be a graded race, as for the longest time it was merely a restricted race that few big name horses pointed for.

I think my favorite winners of this race were Cosmotron and Personal Hope.
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I thought Leothelion might point here, after a nice maiden win a few weeks ago. Not sure if he's been on the work tab since his last race, though.
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This didn't even used to be a graded race, as for the longest time it was merely a restricted race that few big name horses pointed for.

I think my favorite winners of this race were Cosmotron and Personal Hope.
That's going back a bit. Personal Hope won the Santa Anita Derby I think that year... '92-'94? It was also oddly placed on the calendar for a long time too... Third Saturday of January maybe? Empire Maker flopped in it to start his 3yo campaign...
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That's going back a bit. Personal Hope won the Santa Anita Derby I think that year... '92-'94? It was also oddly placed on the calendar for a long time too... Third Saturday of January maybe? Empire Maker flopped in it to start his 3yo campaign...
Yep. He did (PH) win the SA derby that year. That race didn't used to be used as a TC or SA Derby prep though.

Man Among Men spanked Empire Maker.
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That's going back a bit. Personal Hope won the Santa Anita Derby I think that year... '92-'94? It was also oddly placed on the calendar for a long time too... Third Saturday of January maybe? Empire Maker flopped in it to start his 3yo campaign...
The race, at least since the late '80s, has always been at the end of February. Used to be called the Bradbury, and was restricted to non-stakes winners (hence the reason for no big names).

Where the hell is Pedigree Ann?
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The race, at least since the late '80s, has always been at the end of February. Used to be called the Bradbury, and was restricted to non-stakes winners (hence the reason for no big names).

Where the hell is Pedigree Ann?
Wow. The Bradbury... ZERO recollection of that but I wasn't tuned in to the Cali circuit at that point at all. (This is a topic tailor made for Jon White tonight on ATR). I first took note of the Sham with USS Tinosa winning it. I liked him. Then I watched it as a race that was the first or one of the first 9f tests of the year. But then Master David and Going Wild won it and went downhill from there...
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Wow. The Bradbury... ZERO recollection of that but I wasn't tuned in to the Cali circuit at that point at all. (This is a topic tailor made for Jon White tonight on ATR). I first took note of the Sham with USS Tinosa winning it. I liked him. Then I watched it as a race that was the first or one of the first 9f tests of the year. But then Master David and Going Wild won it and went downhill from there...
Some of the winners went on to be famous. Kris S. and later his son, Prized, won it. Dramatic Gold beat $1 million yearling Numerous in '94.
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Mandella looks for way back to Derby
By Steve Andersen

http://www.drf.com/news/article/111004.html

ARCADIA, Calif. - Richard Mandella watched the 2009 Kentucky Derby in a condition somewhere between amazement and shock.

Mine That Bird, who had been trained by Mandella for one race the preceding winter before being sold, was storming home in a 50-1 upset for trainer Chip Woolley.

"He was great that day," Mandella said. "How do you expect a horse to run like that?"

This year, the Hall of Fame trainer wants to take his own chance at the Kentucky Derby, perhaps with Setsuko, who starts in Saturday's $150,000 Sham Stakes at Santa Anita.

Setsuko is making his stakes debut in the Grade 3 Sham Stakes over 1 1/8 miles, his sixth career start. He needed five races to beat maidens, but did so by three lengths over 1 1/16 miles at Hollywood Park in December. In his only start at this meeting, Setsuko was a game second in an optional claimer over 1 1/8 miles on turf Jan. 27.
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Some of the winners went on to be famous. Kris S. and later his son, Prized, won it. Dramatic Gold beat $1 million yearling Numerous in '94.
Stalwars under Stevens in the '88 Bradbury..
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Does anybody in the Road to the Roses league have ANY of these dogs?
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