Is Being Gay A Choice?

randallscott35 · #1 03-31-2010, 03:21 PM

Some think yes, some think no....but if most animal groups have "gays" I would think it is in fact natural, aka I believe people are born gay.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/04/ma...mals-t.html?hp

timmgirvan · #2 03-31-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Some think yes, some think no....but if most animal groups have "gays" I would think it is in fact natural, aka I believe people are born gay.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/04/ma...mals-t.html?hp

The study was done on albatross,not humans. Sorry, too big of a stretch.

Antitrust32 · #3 03-31-2010, 03:32 PM

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The study was done on albatross,not humans. Sorry, too big of a stretch.

hey timmi.. Is being straight a choice? Would you feel comfortable making love to another man?

timmgirvan · #4 03-31-2010, 03:35 PM

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hey timmi.. Is being straight a choice? Would you feel comfortable making love to another man?

I'm going to refrain from this "loaded" thread.....it could go on and on....
I'm straight, period.

Antitrust32 · #5 03-31-2010, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I'm going to refrain from this "loaded" thread.....it could go on and on....
I'm straight, period.

exactly. Its not a choice for you and its not a choice for people who fall in love with their same gender.

Why would someone choose to live a more difficult life where half the people out there think you are a weirdo and associates you with a pedifile's and a beasteality people (or however those words are spelled)?? Why would someone choose a lifestyle where you are afraid your own family will reject you?

People are gay because they feel comfortable in same sex relationships, and that is natural to them. It is not natural to be in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex.

Basically the same, natural, reasons for you being "straight" just the other way around.

SOREHOOF · #6 03-31-2010, 03:47 PM

More love in this world can't be a bad thing.

Antitrust32 · #7 03-31-2010, 03:55 PM

It is interesting that the majority of Republicans that I talk to (not all of course) are FOR gay rights. Only a small minority of the more religious Republican base that I talk to are against it.. for religious reasons only.

I'm not sure why more Republican so - called "leaders" cant be more in touch with the Conservatives who are socially more "left" and why do they cater so much to the religious right? I'm sure there are a lot more Fiscally Conservative but Socially liberal people out there than there are fanatical religious Conservatives. The religious ones have a louder voice though.

Why is equality a "left" thing? Why cant it be an "everyone" thing? You would thing that the Conservatives, based on their beliefs of individual freedoms, would take the side of equality. Most intelligent & compassionate individuals out there, who live there life based on reality, are for equality.

hi_im_god · #8 03-31-2010, 03:58 PM

i don't think it's a matter of their being a gay/straight light switch where you have to be 100% one or the other

it's more a dimmer switch. some are in the 90-100% range and those people probably don't have much of a choice. some are closer to 50% and actually do.

those that think you can pray gay away probably haven't thought too deeply about where their belief comes from. with rare exception, gays have been discriminated against for thousands of years. who "chooses" such a difficult path for themselves? what drives that more difficult choice if it isn't biology?

hi_im_god · #9 03-31-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I'm going to refrain from this "loaded" thread.....it could go on and on....
I'm straight, period.

what an odd thing to say.

did someone suggest you weren't?

could discussing this accidently change your sexuality?

hi_im_god · #10 03-31-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

It is interesting that the majority of Republicans that I talk to (not all of course) are FOR gay rights. Only a small minority of the more religious Republican base that I talk to are against it.. for religious reasons only.

I'm not sure why more Republican so - called "leaders" cant be more in touch with the Conservatives who are socially more "left" and why do they cater so much to the religious right? I'm sure there are a lot more Fiscally Conservative but Socially liberal people out there than there are fanatical religious Conservatives. The religious ones have a louder voice though.

Why is equality a "left" thing? Why cant it be an "everyone" thing? You would thing that the Conservatives, based on their beliefs of individual freedoms, would take the side of equality. Most intelligent & compassionate individuals out there, who live there life based on reality, are for equality.

i'd guess that most of the republicans you talk to are comfortable having a gay friend. it's amazing how knowing someone makes it more difficult to have a set of rigid doctrinaire opinions about them.

the problem is that in many parts of this country you may have gay friends but they aren't about to tell you.

timmgirvan · #11 03-31-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

what an odd thing to say.

did someone suggest you weren't?

could discussing this accidently change your sexuality?

It would help if you followed the thread before you shot off a response.
I said I was refraining for a long dialog..thereby using period.

hi_im_god · #12 03-31-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

It would help if you followed the thread before you shot off a response.
I said I was refraining for a long dialog..thereby using period.

while also loudly announcing how gay you're not.

it's okay though. i have wood floors and plantation shutters so i randomly scream out the window that i'm straight so my neighbor's don't get confused.

i understand.

miraja2 · #13 03-31-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

The study was done on albatross,not humans. Sorry, too big of a stretch.

Did you not read his post? He was making a point about homosexuality in animals. You seem to have missed the point.

timmgirvan · #14 03-31-2010, 04:20 PM

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Did you not read his post? He was making a point about homosexuality in animals. You seem to have missed the point.

Read the article,dork!

timmgirvan · #15 03-31-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

while also loudly announcing how gay you're not.

it's okay though. i have wood floors and plantation shutters so i randomly scream out the window that i'm straight so my neighbor's don't get confused.

i understand.

you are a complete clown!

miraja2 · #16 03-31-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

It is interesting that the majority of Republicans that I talk to (not all of course) are FOR gay rights. Only a small minority of the more religious Republican base that I talk to are against it.. for religious reasons only.

I'm not sure why more Republican so - called "leaders" cant be more in touch with the Conservatives who are socially more "left" and why do they cater so much to the religious right? I'm sure there are a lot more Fiscally Conservative but Socially liberal people out there than there are fanatical religious Conservatives. The religious ones have a louder voice though.

Why is equality a "left" thing? Why cant it be an "everyone" thing? You would thing that the Conservatives, based on their beliefs of individual freedoms, would take the side of equality. Most intelligent & compassionate individuals out there, who live there life based on reality, are for equality.

It isn't just the Republican leadership or a small minority of Republicans that oppose gay marriage. As of a 2008 poll anyway, 75% of all registered Republicans opposed gay marriage:
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/868/gay-marriage