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Old 05-03-2010, 07:27 PM
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Default Super Saver on "Short" Rest in Baltimore

Putting aside trips and the possibility that he is a Churchill-loving mudlark, Super Saver will certainly be bucking Pletcher's penchant for having well-spaced campaigns for his top horses when he wheels back in just two weeks in Baltimore. And having prepped at Oaklawn, this will be his third race in 5 weeks.

Much has already been made of Pletcher's pre-2010 Derby performance. Of those 24 starters, it is interesting to note that he only ran two back in the Preakness: Impeachment (3rd) in 2000, and Circular Quay (5th) in 2007. His "short" rest record in the Belmont is not much better, with Impeachment running fifth in 2000, while Purge ran dead last off a romping Peter Pan in 2004. Similarly, Graeme Hall, Strong Hope and Purge all flopped in the Travers when the "prep" was contested "only" three weeks prior to the Mid-Summer Derby.

Dutrow, another trainer who likes to space the races of his top horses, made a lot of the short turnaround a few years ago with Big Brown, but at least we see Dutrow run horses on short rest with some frequency (albeit with his cheaper stock). We hardly ever see this from Pletcher. It will be interesting to see how Super Saver bounces back in the Preakness.
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:52 AM
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if he runs a simular trip as the last two races and does not tire or bounce. its a no brainer bet, if hes not the favorite. this could be easier than the derby with his running style.
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:58 AM
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He ran a new top. I see no reason he can't pair it even on short rest. The last few Derby winners have done the same. Now the Belmont is a different story but I'd give him a good chance in Baltimore.
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Old 05-04-2010, 09:21 AM
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I'd give him a great chance in Baltimore. The Belmont, not so much.
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Old 05-04-2010, 09:41 AM
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Horses aren't machines. I think he bounces here, and we don't see him until summer. If he does do well, and goes on, no BC in the fall.
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:18 AM
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Putting aside trips and the possibility that he is a Churchill-loving mudlark, Super Saver will certainly be bucking Pletcher's penchant for having well-spaced campaigns for his top horses when he wheels back in just two weeks in Baltimore. And having prepped at Oaklawn, this will be his third race in 5 weeks.

Much has already been made of Pletcher's pre-2010 Derby performance. Of those 24 starters, it is interesting to note that he only ran two back in the Preakness: Impeachment (3rd) in 2000, and Circular Quay (5th) in 2007. His "short" rest record in the Belmont is not much better, with Impeachment running fifth in 2000, while Purge ran dead last off a romping Peter Pan in 2004. Similarly, Graeme Hall, Strong Hope and Purge all flopped in the Travers when the "prep" was contested "only" three weeks prior to the Mid-Summer Derby.

Dutrow, another trainer who likes to space the races of his top horses, made a lot of the short turnaround a few years ago with Big Brown, but at least we see Dutrow run horses on short rest with some frequency (albeit with his cheaper stock). We hardly ever see this from Pletcher. It will be interesting to see how Super Saver bounces back in the Preakness.
Good point about the short rest, however to play the devil's advocate here I also think it's fair to point out that seemingly everything he is sending out recently seems to be winning. Perhaps he's found an edge and until he starts to cool off you have to look at his horses everytime they are entered.
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Good point about the short rest, however to play the devil's advocate here I also think it's fair to point out that seemingly everything he is sending out recently seems to be winning. Perhaps he's found an edge and until he starts to cool off you have to look at his horses everytime they are entered.
Its name is Borel.
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Its name is Borel.
Good one, however Albarado wiring the Lexington field with Exhi is all you need to know that he's found an edge. Albarado...?
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Good one, however Albarado wiring the Lexington field with Exhi is all you need to know that he's found an edge. Albarado...?
LOL, why do you think I upgrade Mineshaft. Clean trainer and Albarado going 10 wide in 5 horse fields.
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Old 05-16-2010, 07:40 AM
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Horses aren't machines. I think he bounces here, and we don't see him until summer. If he does do well, and goes on, no BC in the fall.
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