Afleet Express a 115 'raw' Beyer; Final fig a 107..

[hockey2315]

Umm whoa.

Good to see him leave the gate this time.

[Thunder Gulch]

I didn't see the race so my first thought was "check the timer". Looking at the charts and considering the show horse was 13 back, I guess the time is right. The other dirt sprints look average, so now my thoughts are "where did that come from? " and "check Jimmy's chemist".

[slotdirt]

Afleet Alex is turning out pretty OK as a sire, so it would appear.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Umm whoa.

Good to see him leave the gate this time.

Pretty cut and dry number, too. For once they didn't have to chop up the card.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Afleet Alex is turning out pretty OK as a sire, so it would appear.

Who's he had besides Dublin and AE?

I'm not being sarcastic.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Who's he had besides Dublin and AE?

I'm not being sarcastic.

Stakes winners Harissa, Go Ask Alex, and Afleet Again. None of them are superstars but that's a pretty good start for a first crop.

NT

[Patrick333]

No doubt about it, he looked good. Hopefully he can continue to progress.

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by philcski

Pretty cut and dry number, too. For once they didn't have to chop up the card.

Not so fast, my friend.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Not so fast, my friend.

LOL.

And again, they prove why it's no longer worth taking the Beyers printed at face value. I wish they would just put the right number in there and let the bettors decide whether it's legit (and repeatable.)

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by philcski

LOL.

And again, they prove why it's no longer worth taking the Beyers printed at face value. I wish they would just put the right number in there and let the bettors decide whether it's legit (and repeatable.)

I hear you phil. They think they are doing everyone a favor by injecting so much subjectivity, but they are making it impossible to interpret the figures. When you had a cut and dried method taking the final time and adjusting for a variant, you left room for creativity in handicapping. Now they want to adjust for so many different factors, somebody using figures with trip handicapping adjustments is totally lost. Just stick to the beaten lengths scale and let me do the work.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by philcski

LOL.

And again, they prove why it's no longer worth taking the Beyers printed at face value. I wish they would just put the right number in there and let the bettors decide whether it's legit (and repeatable.)

The 115 was not exactly a " printed " figure and you should realize that. The raw numbers have only recently become widely available because of Formulator Web.

Would you prefer it goes back to taking as much as weeks for the figures to be widely available?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The 115 was not exactly a " printed " figure and you should realize that. The raw numbers have only recently become widely available because of Formulator Web.

Would you prefer it goes back to taking as much as weeks for the figures to be widely available?

No- I want them to go back to not splitting the variant 4 times because it didn't "fit". They cut that race out because they didn't want it to be "too fast". That wasn't the raw number anyways, it was the original "printed" (using the variant they applied on the other races of -4 or -5.)

The card was about as cut and dry as it possibly could be. There were 5 dirt races, all sprints. As follows:
Race, Raw figure, Assigned figure
1, 88, 83
2, 79, 73
3, 120, *
5, 58, 54
7, 83, 78

On top of that- the figures all fit well within expectation in the other 4 races.