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Old 08-03-2010, 04:57 PM
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Default 8/6 (SAR): John's Call S., Loudonville S.

3rd (2:06) Loudonville S.

6 Furlongs | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $70,000

1 Stormandaprayer Maragh R 118 L
2 Nonna Mia Velazquez J R 118 L
3 Simply Spiteful Rose J 118 L
4 Funny Feeling Garcia Alan 122 L
5 Lisa's Booby Trap Desormeaux K J 118 L
6 Zermatt Castellano J J 118 L



8th (4:56) John's Call S.

1 5/8 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $70,000

1 Always First (GB) Albarado R J 119 L
2 Jade's Revenge Solis A 119 L
3 Solitaire Leparoux J R 121 L
4 Attempted Humor Gomez G K 117 Blk-Off L
5 Dry Martini Prado E S 119 L
6 Lignon's Hero (BRZ) Garcia Alan 117 L
7 Coolcullen Times (IRE) Castellano J J 117 L
8 Lime Rickey Velasquez C 115
9 Gangbuster Desormeaux K J 121 L
10 Leading On Luzzi M J 115 L
11 Perfect Shower Velazquez J R 121 L
12 Silver Mountain Dominguez R A 115 L
AE Rockin' Joe Camacho E 115 L
AE Thabazimbi Lezcano J 115
AE Southwest Cohen D 115
AE Romp (ARG) Albarado R J 115 L
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Old 08-03-2010, 05:39 PM
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3rd (2:06) Loudonville S.

6 Furlongs | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $70,000

1 Stormandaprayer Maragh R 118 L
2 Nonna Mia Velazquez J R 118 L
3 Simply Spiteful Rose J 118 L
4 Funny Feeling Garcia Alan 122 L
5 Lisa's Booby Trap Desormeaux K J 118 L
6 Zermatt Castellano J J 118 L
I know Lisa's Booby Trap is kind of a joke but four of these fillies were nominated to the Test. It seems awfully counter-productive to run this race the day before the Test.

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Old 08-05-2010, 09:28 PM
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Why is she a joke?

The John's Call is a skullbuster by the way.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:35 PM
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Solitaire handled Perfect Shower pretty easily in the Singspiel (before Spice Route crushed him late); and he won this race last year. But Attfield is putting Velazquez up, a huge improvement over Jones, and his go to jock lately. Of course, I'm not taking a close look at the race until I know for sure it's ON the turf.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:41 PM
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Why is she a joke?
You must not get TVG. . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKSSPtd33_8
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:47 PM
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Maybe I'm not getting the joke. It's a great story, she's got talent and that field tomorrow sure as hell isn't anything special.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:52 PM
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Doesn't mean she is a joke

She has the fastest sprint number in the race, albeit at Finger Lakes and I have no idea how solid the number is.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:56 PM
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Doesn't mean she is a joke
She might not be a joke, but her beyers have declined all 3 starts. Im sure Ateam will love that.....
I would be stunned if she is in the super.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:59 PM
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She might not be a joke, but her beyers have declined all 3 starts. Im sure Ateam will love that.....
I would be stunned if she is in the super.
As if the stars hadn't already aligned enough for her to win this.
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:01 PM
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As if the stars hadn't already aligned enough for her to win this.

Then this should really set her up, SHE HAS 0% CHANCE TO WIN THIS RACE. She is a lot more likely to run 5th or last.
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:02 PM
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She might not be a joke, but her beyers have declined all 3 starts. Im sure Ateam will love that.....
I would be stunned if she is in the super.
To counter your Beyer decline, she is 0-2 = x in terms of Thorograph, this pattern has yielded a return to the top alot.

She runs her debut race, which was huge, she will win
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As if the stars hadn't already aligned enough for her to win this.
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Yeah, Nonna Mia really is the second coming of Xtra Heat. You're right.
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Yeah, Nonna Mia really is the second coming of Xtra Heat. You're right.
I think this group SUCKS. All of them, not just the Finger Lakes horse.
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:10 PM
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I think this group SUCKS. All of them, not just the Finger Lakes horse.
1. Everybody in the race sucks
2. THIS HORSE HAS 0% CHANCE AND WILL NEVER HIT THE BOARD IN EVER
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:17 PM
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To counter your Beyer decline, she is 0-2 = x in terms of Thorograph, this pattern has yielded a return to the top alot.

She runs her debut race, which was huge, she will win
I'm not really an avid Sheets user but based on the patterns each of these fillies have, isn't it more likely that Nonna Mia or Zermatt run big races?

The problem, of course with every horse in this race not named Funny Feeling is that you're banking on them rating and being successful. If you have the stones to play a horse in here who you think is speed of the speed you're taking a gigantic chance.

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Old 08-05-2010, 10:18 PM
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I'm not really an avid Sheets user but based on the patterns each of these fillies have, isn't it more likely that Nonna Mia or Zermatt run big races?

The problem, of course with every horse in this race not named Funny Feeling is that you're banking on them rating and being successful. If you have the stones to play a horse in here who you think is speed of the speed you're taking a gigantic chance.

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I think Nonna Mia will be the speed of the speed and I think Zermatt will rate.
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:34 PM
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There's really no way Nonna Mia outruns Stormandaprayer to the first quarter, and so far NM has shown absolutely no ability to rate. I think she's a terrible bet at 2-1. Even though the race sets up for Funny Feeling, she had no excuse in the Prioress so she's hard to take at 5-2. Zermatt beat a terrible MSW field last time out and also isn't guaranteed to rate. How anybody can eliminate LBT is beyond me.
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There's really no way Nonna Mia outruns Stormandaprayer to the first quarter, and so far NM has shown absolutely no ability to rate. I think she's a terrible bet at 2-1. Even though the race sets up for Funny Feeling, she had no excuse in the Prioress so she's hard to take at 5-2. Zermatt beat a terrible MSW field last time out and also isn't guaranteed to rate. How anybody can eliminate LBT is beyond me.
Especially coming off the route race, she will most likely automatically be behind these fillies. LBT might fall into the perfect trip.

I can really care less about the race, but I will watch this one and cheer for her to win, nothing wrong with 'hope'
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:50 PM
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The problem, of course with every horse in this race not named Funny Feeling is that you're banking on them rating and being successful. If you have the stones to play a horse in here who you think is speed of the speed you're taking a gigantic chance.

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On this track? Surely you jest. How many off the pace, outside winners have there been so far?
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