Blind Luck

FATPIANO · #1 08-23-2010, 06:05 PM

How good is she? I think she a very special filly and deserves her own post, she is one very consistant filly and probably one of the best of the past few years

Clip-Clop · #2 08-23-2010, 06:08 PM

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37947
We got one...

RockHardTen1985 · #3 08-23-2010, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FATPIANO

How good is she? I think she a very special filly and deserves her own post, she is one very consistant filly and probably one of the best of the past few years

Shes OK.

ateamstupid · #4 08-23-2010, 06:42 PM

"You can't ship a horse across the country multiple times and expect them to perform well and blah blah blah blah blah" - Zentologists, 2010

PSH · #5 08-23-2010, 06:47 PM

Good to see a local NoCal trainer make good.
Jerry is a hard working, clean (appears to be) trainer who has dominated over the years at Golden Gate and Bay Meadows and has now become a fixture down in SO Cal. He is not afraid to ship his good horses to wherever to compete and has a fine record in shipping the good horses to win major stake races.....

PSH

RockHardTen1985 · #6 08-23-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

"You can't ship a horse across the country multiple times and expect them to perform well and blah blah blah blah blah" - Zentologists, 2010

Joseph this is just silly. Blind Luck is ok at best, and you know it. Lets all stop bashing Z for her pathetic connections.

letswastemoney · #7 08-23-2010, 06:50 PM

Going for 5 for 5 when shipping...

"Blind Luck, Havre de Grace and Devil May Care – the first, second and fourth-place finishers from the Alabama – are all under consideration for the Cotillion."

http://drf.com/news/rail-trip-likely-out-woodward

ateamstupid · #8 08-23-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Joseph this is just silly. Blind Luck is ok at best, and you know it. Lets all stop bashing Z for her pathetic connections.

Other than Rachel and Rags, name me a better three-year-old filly the last five years.

And if she's just OK, how come she's able to ship across the Rockies so many times and win? Surely that takes a superhorse's ability.

Clip-Clop · #9 08-23-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Other than Rachel and Rags, name me a better three-year-old filly the last five years.

And if she's just OK, how come she's able to ship across the Rockies so many times and win? Surely that takes a superhorse's ability.

She will turn out better than Rags.

ateamstupid · #10 08-23-2010, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

She will turn out better than Rags.

Rags is a tough horse to judge, considering how quickly her career ended. I really would've loved to see what she could do at four.

RockHardTen1985 · #11 08-23-2010, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Other than Rachel and Rags, name me a better three-year-old filly the last five years.

And if she's just OK, how come she's able to ship across the Rockies so many times and win? Surely that takes a superhorse's ability.

Dude your 2 funny.... A few weeks back it was not about accomplishments.... Remember that? When I kept bringing up G1 wins? Thats all this gal has going for her, because shes slow as hell. The stretch run of the Bama was not pretty to watch IMO, they all looked to be laboring. I wont aruge with you about the past 5 years, because the entire game has been down, and even you will agree with that. She is up there on accomplishments. Lets be realistic, at 9f even a filly like Flashing from last year is competitive with this gal. You cant have it both ways, when I was talking about the Grade 1 wins you totally bashed me, where is her fast race? Her 104 early on this year, thats it, and if a 104 is fast then that again is a product of the horses being slower.
BTW... I would take Proud Spell and Music Note over Blind Luck.

hockey2315 · #12 08-23-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Dude your 2 funny.... A few weeks back it was not about accomplishments.... Remember that? When I kept bringing up G1 wins? Thats all this gal has going for her, because shes slow as hell. The stretch run of the Bama was not pretty to watch IMO, they all looked to be laboring. I wont aruge with you about the past 5 years, because the entire game has been down, and even you will agree with that. She is up there on accomplishments. Lets be realistic, at 9f even a filly like Flashing from last year is competitive with this gal. You cant have it both ways, when I was talking about the Grade 1 wins you totally bashed me, where is her fast race? Her 104 early on this year, thats it, and if a 104 is fast then that again is a product of the horses being slower.
BTW... I would take Proud Spell and Music Note over Blind Luck.

Easy there. . .

RockHardTen1985 · #13 08-23-2010, 07:06 PM

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Easy there. . .

I dont think its that far fetched. Going 9 furlongs of course.

Danzig · #14 08-23-2010, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Dude your 2 funny.... A few weeks back it was not about accomplishments.... Remember that? When I kept bringing up G1 wins? Thats all this gal has going for her, because shes slow as hell. The stretch run of the Bama was not pretty to watch IMO, they all looked to be laboring. I wont aruge with you about the past 5 years, because the entire game has been down, and even you will agree with that. She is up there on accomplishments. Lets be realistic, at 9f even a filly like Flashing from last year is competitive with this gal. You cant have it both ways, when I was talking about the Grade 1 wins you totally bashed me, where is her fast race? Her 104 early on this year, thats it, and if a 104 is fast then that again is a product of the horses being slower.
BTW... I would take Proud Spell and Music Note over Blind Luck.

i think the last five years has been very kind to us in the distaff division. i think devil may care is good, but blind luck obviously is better at the 'bama distance.
hard to say of course where blind luck will stack up historically, since she's not done-but she's better than you're giving her credit for. shocking. you seem to be all over the place when it comes to judging horses.

ateamstupid · #15 08-23-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Dude your 2 funny.... A few weeks back it was not about accomplishments.... Remember that? When I kept bringing up G1 wins? Thats all this gal has going for her, because shes slow as hell. The stretch run of the Bama was not pretty to watch IMO, they all looked to be laboring. I wont aruge with you about the past 5 years, because the entire game has been down, and even you will agree with that. She is up there on accomplishments. Lets be realistic, at 9f even a filly like Flashing from last year is competitive with this gal. You cant have it both ways, when I was talking about the Grade 1 wins you totally bashed me, where is her fast race? Her 104 early on this year, thats it, and if a 104 is fast then that again is a product of the horses being slower.
BTW... I would take Proud Spell and Music Note over Blind Luck.

Considering what a herculean task shipping across the country is made out to be by some, this horse should be an all-time great already.

Blind Luck is pretty much impervious to pace, which is far more impressive on dirt than it is on synthetic. She takes her track with her, deep closers like her generally aren't going to run real big figures (and before you say anything, I never criticized Zenyatta for not running big figs) and she can run all day. Havre de Grace is no slouch and she buried the east coast's top filly. I don't care about Grade I/II/III designations, but Blind Luck has done nothing wrong and hasn't ducked anyone.

NTamm1215 · #16 08-23-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Dude your 2 funny.... A few weeks back it was not about accomplishments.... Remember that? When I kept bringing up G1 wins? Thats all this gal has going for her, because shes slow as hell. The stretch run of the Bama was not pretty to watch IMO, they all looked to be laboring. I wont aruge with you about the past 5 years, because the entire game has been down, and even you will agree with that. She is up there on accomplishments. Lets be realistic, at 9f even a filly like Flashing from last year is competitive with this gal. You cant have it both ways, when I was talking about the Grade 1 wins you totally bashed me, where is her fast race? Her 104 early on this year, thats it, and if a 104 is fast then that again is a product of the horses being slower.
BTW... I would take Proud Spell and Music Note over Blind Luck.

I don't think it's necessarily about "fast" but more that she can continue to win against negative setups. The Ky and Del Oaks were great examples of that and one thing she has been able to do that a horse like Proud Spell couldn't, is show up every time. I won't hold the synthetic losses against her because it was a good bit of rider error in both but the Hol Oaks pace was just too slow for her to overcome.

I think Blind Luck would destroy Flashing at 9fs.

NT

RockHardTen1985 · #17 08-23-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Considering what a herculean task shipping across the country is made out to be by some, this horse should be an all-time great already.

Blind Luck is pretty much impervious to pace, which is far more impressive on dirt than it is on synthetic. She takes her track with her, deep closers like her generally aren't going to run real big figures (and before you say anything, I never criticized Zenyatta for not running big figs) and she can run all day. Havre de Grace is no slouch and she buried the east coast's top filly. I don't care about Grade I/II/III designations, but Blind Luck has done nothing wrong and hasn't ducked anyone.

Impervious to pace? OMG.... Like Zenyatta is?