10/9 (BEL): Champagne S., Frizette S., Jamaica H. (G1's)

[Kasept]

7th (4:11) Jamaica H. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Citrus Kid Espinoza J L 114 L
2 Admiral Alex Hill C 114 L
3 Beau Choix Velasquez C 116 L
4 Center Divider Cohen D 114 L
5 Turf Melody Solis A 116 L
6 Lethal Combination Garcia Alan 117 L
7 Prince Will I Am Lezcano J 114 L
8 Two Notch Road Uske S 117 L
9 Krypton Prado E S 118 L
10 Teaks North Valdivia J Jr 116 L
11 Fantastico Roberto (IRE) Velazquez J R 117 Blk-On L



8th (4:43) Frizette S. (G1)

1 Mile | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 R Heat Lightning Velazquez J R 120 L
2 Promise Me a Cat Prado E S 120 L
3 Coax Liberty Caraballo J C 120 Blk-On L
4 Maple Forest Cohen D 120 L
5 A Z Warrior Garcia Alan 120 L
6 After Later Fragoso P 120 L
7 Tap for Luck Solis A 120 L
8 Joyful Victory Velasquez C 120 L
9 Valiant Passion Lezcano J 120 L



9th (5:15) Champagne S. (G1)

1 Mile | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $300,000

2 Meridian Magic Solis A 122 L
3 Settle for Medal Lezcano J 122 L
1 Uncle Mo Velazquez J R 122 L
4 I'm Steppin' It Up Cohen D 122 L
1A Stay Thirsty Castellano J J 122 L
5 Mountain Town Velasquez C 122 L
6 Brother in Arms Prado E S 122 L

A-Coupled: Uncle Mo and Stay Thirsty

[chucklestheclown]

11/1/1.

[hockey2315]

Teaks North is a pretty nice horse. . . He can't be favored, right?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Teaks North is a pretty nice horse. . . He can't be favored, right?

Just saw that Eric made him 8-1 ML. Anyone want to give me 6-1?

[Betsy]

Stay Thirsty was entered only as an insurance policy and, for some reason, will be trained up to the BC

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Just saw that Eric made him 8-1 ML. Anyone want to give me 6-1?

Happily.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Stay Thirsty was entered only as an insurance policy and, for some reason, will be trained up to the BC

He should be training up to an allowance race

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Happily.

So you think he'll be near 8-1?

What don't you like about him? I know Admiral Alex will be tough, but still. . .

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

So you think he'll be near 8-1?

What don't you like about him? I know Admiral Alex will be tough, but still. . .

I haven't finished the race but it's not that I like or don't like him...I just can't imagine him being less than 6:1 ( then again, considering some here think Dos Lunas will be 15:1, maybe he will be 30:1 ).

My initial feeling is that Beau Choix ran better than he did last time, and Beau Choix in't very good, so it's hard for me to be too excited. But, honestly, I was going to finish the race later, so I don't really have an opinion right now.

[RockHardTen1985]

From top to bottom the quality of these 3 Grade 1 races is pretty shitty.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

He should be training up to an allowance race

I disagree, but ok.

[JerseyJ]

Originally Posted by Betsy

I disagree, but ok.

If it were up to you, he'd be rested the rest of the year and brought back in an allowance at Gulfstream where Pletcher's horses run like wildebeasts...

But yeah, he should be running in an allowance compared to Graded Stakes...In fact, he could be the favorite for last in the BC Juvenile.

[NTamm1215]

I'm going to bet Prince Will I Am in the Jamaica. He may ultimately want more ground but he really ran a nice race in the N1X last time out and the pace in here looks like it'll be solid.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I'm going to bet Prince Will I Am in the Jamaica. He may ultimately want more ground but he really ran a nice race in the N1X last time out and the pace in here looks like it'll be solid.

Yeah, I ended up taking him as well.

[Indian Charlie]

Lubash was a possibility for the Jamaica. Would have been fun to watch him here.

On a semi related note, I cannot wait for South Park next week!

An entire episode on NJ wops!

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by JerseyJ

If it were up to you, he'd be rested the rest of the year and brought back in an allowance at Gulfstream where Pletcher's horses run like wildebeasts...

But yeah, he should be running in an allowance compared to Graded Stakes...In fact, he could be the favorite for last in the BC Juvenile.

Huh? The point that poster was making was that Stay Thirsty doesn't belong in the Juvenile, but rather in an allowance race - at least tha's how it sounded. I also never said he should run in an allowance race.

No, I think it's asinine that he's going to train up the the Juvenile off a 2 month layoff, with his last race at 7 furlongs.

I don't even think you're speaking English because what you just posted makes no sense whatsoever.

[JerseyJ]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Huh? The point that poster was making was that Stay Thirsty doesn't belong in the Juvenile, but rather in an allowance race - at least tha's how it sounded. I also never said he should run in an allowance race.

No, I think it's asinine that he's going to train up the the Juvenile off a 2 month layoff, with his last race at 7 furlongs.

I don't even think you're speaking English because what you just posted makes no sense whatsoever.

I think I am speaking fine English matter of factly. In fact I think it's idiotic they are evening running this horse in the Juvenile. I absolutely agree that he belongs in an allowance race as prep race or not he's not much horse and likely to be up the track in the Breeders Cup Juvenile.

Considering how little you want horses you like to run, that's where it makes total sense that you would probably have the horse take the winter off and return at Gulfstream, considering that may be the last time we ever see this horse run a good race after seeing Pletcher's freak jobs at Gulfstream in the winter.

[pucknut]

is uncle mo the free square?

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by JerseyJ

I think I am speaking fine English matter of factly. In fact I think it's idiotic they are evening running this horse in the Juvenile. I absolutely agree that he belongs in an allowance race as prep race or not he's not much horse and likely to be up the track in the Breeders Cup Juvenile.

Considering how little you want horses you like to run, that's where it makes total sense that you would probably have the horse take the winter off and return at Gulfstream, considering that may be the last time we ever see this horse run a good race after seeing Pletcher's freak jobs at Gulfstream in the winter.

If the poster meant that the ALW would be a prep, then I agree. I think he's a good horse, but I think he'll be up the track without a prep. 2 months off, last race at 7 furlongs? I can't figure Todd out here, but whatever.

I'm hardly concerned that he won't turn into a good 3 year old as I'm high on him and have been since his first start.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Betsy

If the poster meant that the ALW would be a prep, then I agree. I think he's a good horse, but I think he'll be up the track without a prep. 2 months off, last race at 7 furlongs? I can't figure Todd out here, but whatever.

I'm hardly concerned that he won't turn into a good 3 year old as I'm high on him and have been since his first start.

My intention was that I don't think this horse has deserved much of the attention he's gotten so far. If his handlers and pedigree suggest he's a classic distance horse, why not take your time with him, run him in an allowance race this fall, and work him into graded stakes next year around two turns if he develops as much as they all expect him too?