Best Victory over Males

[Sightseek]

We might have done this before, and even I might have started it, but I was in the mood for one of those threads. Rank the victories below, extra credit given to those who state why.

- Rags to Riches Belmont Stakes

- Rachel Alexandra Preakness

- Rachel Alexandra Haskell

- Rachel Alexandra Woodward

- Zenyatta BC Classic

[Clip-Clop]

Those are in order. Rags beat Curlin. Rachel's others go in order from distance to general impressiveness. Zenyatta beat an interesting group but nothing spectacular.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

We might have done this before, and even I might have started it, but I was in the mood for one of those threads. Rank the victories below, extra credit given to those who state why.

- Rags to Riches Belmont Stakes

- Rachel Alexandra Preakness

- Rachel Alexandra Haskell

- Rachel Alexandra Woodward

- Zenyatta BC Classic

I am just happy you are in the mood and will leave it at that

[FGFan]

Hmmm...I think maybe Rags beating Curlin.

But Sighty are we only dealing with US. horseys here, what about Goldikova always beating the boys????

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I am just happy you are in the mood and will leave it at that

Freddyperv maybe instead of freddymo?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by FGFan

Hmmm...I think maybe Rags beating Curlin.

But Sighty are we only dealing with US. horseys here, what about Goldikova always beating the boys????

I was going for U.S. dirt races.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I am just happy you are in the mood and will leave it at that

Freddy, I'm always in the mood













































to talk horseys.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I was going for U.S. dirt races.

Gotcha!!!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Freddy, I'm always in the mood













































to talk horseys.

Whatever works..who am I to judge?

[GenuineRisk]

Oh, fun one, Sightseek!

Rags' Belmont was so great to watch when she and Curlin both kicked away from the rest of the field and went head-to-head the whole way down the stretch, but it was very slow and Hard Spun and Curlin ran well in both the Derby and Preakness and I think were a bit tired, while Rags had the benefit of a rest.

That was a fun Belmont- almost as good for me as Big Brown's, which was great not for the lame race, but for spending a nice day with FGFan.

I think I'd give it to Rachel's Preakness. Honest pace, large field, outside post and she'd also run two weeks (and one day) previous.

[alysheba4]

rachel / preakness , zenyatta b.c and rags belmont were equally impressive.

[dalakhani]

1. Zen's bc
2. Rags Belmont
3. Rachels Woodward
4. Rachels Haskell
5. Rachels Preakness

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

We might have done this before, and even I might have started it, but I was in the mood for one of those threads. Rank the victories below, extra credit given to those who state why.

- Rags to Riches Belmont Stakes

- Rachel Alexandra Preakness

- Rachel Alexandra Haskell

- Rachel Alexandra Woodward

- Zenyatta BC Classic

Belmont, Classic, Haskell, Preakness, Woodward.

Rags beat the best group in the Belmont. Hard Spun and Curlin, both very very good horses. Zenyatta beat a bunch of G1 winners and did it with style. It was not the best group, but a lot better then anything Rachel beat in her 3 trys. The Haskell was Rachels best race IMO. Summer Bird and Munnings were both OK at the time. That Preakness was bad, and Mine That Bird who is and was a slug put in a giant run at her. Other then Rachel, easily the worse Woodward I can remember. Macho Again was trash and so was everyone else in that race.

[Dahoss]

Hard Spun was a monster going 12 furlongs.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Hard Spun was a monster going 12 furlongs.

Unlucky he came around in that year. He was a total monster.
I think his last 2 races that year really proved he was special. The trip in the Belmont was a joke, no telling what could have been. One could argue he was best in the Derby.

[Indian Charlie]

That crop freaking sucked Joey.

Relative to most recent years however, I can see why you might be confused and say something like Hard Spun was unlucky to come along in that crop.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Unlucky he came around in that year. He was a total monster.
I think his last 2 races that year really proved he was special. The trip in the Belmont was a joke, no telling what could have been. One could argue he was best in the Derby.

He was okay, but hardly a monster. Horse racing actually existed before 2001. Instead of spending countless hours posting gibberish you should look into some of it.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

That crop freaking sucked Joey.

Relative to most recent years however, I can see why you might be confused and say something like Hard Spun was unlucky to come along in that crop.

Im not confused and I am comparing to the recent crops. Super Saver and MTB winning Derby, and those big 3 came along in the same year. Thats all Im saying.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im not confused and I am comparing to the recent crops. Super Saver and MTB winning Derby, and those big 3 came along in the same year. Thats all Im saying.

The crop that MTB was in was actually pretty decent, but was decimated by injuries.

I think it's far from a certainty that Hard Spun would have fared that well in that year had that crop stayed sound.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

The crop that MTB was in was actually pretty decent, but was decimated by injuries.

I think it's far from a certainty that Hard Spun would have fared that well in that year had that crop stayed sound.

I stongly disagree with this. Hard Spun showed in the BC he loved the slop, I think he wins that Derby fairly easily. If I remember correctly Fresian Fires what the chalk and I had POTN as my lone A. Big Drama was a sprinter period, Summer Bird did not get really good until the Travers IMO. Dunkirk ran 1 good race. And like you said the 2 big horses got hurt.