Libya

[Riot]

Thank god the crazy madman doesn't have a nuclear button to push, he'd do it to destroy his own people.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

Thank god the crazy madman doesn't have a nuclear button to push, he'd do it to destroy his own people.

I agree -- thank God. But each Administration -- this one, and yes, Bush too, is/was trying damn hard to make sure that Ahmadinejad will be the first madman with a nuke.

We've got to get serious. Sanctions won't cut it, ever.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

Thank Bush the crazy madman doesn't have a nuclear button to push, he'd do it to destroy his own people.

FTFY!

[SOREHOOF]

Gotta love Obamas Mid East sense. Silence about revolt in Iran and Libya where a new Govt. could not possibly be worse than what is in place. For America's interests or for the peoples interest. Yet very vocal when the outcome of a change is iffy for the people of the respective countries and the people of America and of the World.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Thank god the crazy madman doesn't have a nuclear button to push, he'd do it to destroy his own people.

What percentage of those people would make this a sad event, exactly?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

What percentage of those people would make this a sad event, exactly?

1 child.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

What percentage of those people would make this a sad event, exactly?

Sad in what way? The Libyans used to think we hated Khadaffy. Shouldn't we show them at least the same respect as the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt? Shouldn't we be trying to help people who might be allies in that region?
1 child would be sad, in more ways than 1,depending how you look at it.. There may be thousands dead already. Quadaffy has been an insane menace my whole life. Remember an American airstrike in the 80's that tried to take him out? Got some of his kids if I remember right. Believe me he hates America. We may find friends there.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

What percentage of those people would make this a sad event, exactly?

Geeshus. Try one.

[Clip-Clop]

Alright, that was a bit overboard, but the thought that we will find any friends there is very unlikely. I am seeing that there is exploration of military options for Libya, this cannot and must not happen. We have to just let these fires burn themselves out, the resulting regimes will be no better or worse than what the rest of the region has to offer.

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/id/2286522/


not sure who else is a fan, but i love hitch and reading his articles. on occasion i disagree with his views, but think he's spot-on here. he uses the word naive, something i've used to describe barack obama. i feel our current president thinks that he can make up for our past over-aggressiveness by being too meek-but we all know two wrongs don't make a right.

Is Barack Obama Secretly Swiss?
The administration's pathetic, dithering response to the Arab uprisings has been both cynical and naive.
By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Friday, Feb. 25, 2011, at 11:41 AM ET

However meanly and grudgingly, even the new Republican speaker has now conceded that the president is Hawaiian-born and some kind of Christian. So let's hope that's the end of all that. A more pressing question now obtrudes itself: Is Barack Obama secretly Swiss?

Let me explain what I mean. A Middle Eastern despot now knows for sure when his time in power is well and truly up. He knows it when his bankers in Zurich or Geneva cease accepting his transfers and responding to his confidential communications and instead begin the process of "freezing" his assets and disclosing their extent and their whereabouts to investigators in his long-exploited country. And, at precisely that moment, the U.S. government also announces that it no longer recognizes the said depositor as the duly constituted head of state.



and further down:

Evidently a little sensitive to the related charges of being a) taken yet again completely by surprise, b) apparently without a policy of its own, and c) morally neuter, the Obama administration contrived to come up with an argument that maximized every form of feebleness. Were we to have taken a more robust or discernible position, it was argued, our diplomatic staff in Libya might have been endangered. In other words, we decided to behave as if they were already hostages! The governments of much less powerful nations, many with large expatriate populations as well as embassies in Libya, had already condemned Qaddafi's criminal behavior, and the European Union had considered sanctions, but the United States (which didn't even charter a boat for the removal of staff until Tuesday) felt obliged to act as if it were the colonel's unwilling prisoner. I can't immediately think of any precedent for this pathetic "doctrine," but I can easily see what a useful precedent it sets for any future rogue regime attempting to buy time. Leave us alone—don't even raise your voice against us—or we cannot guarantee the security of your embassy. (It wouldn't be too soon, even now, for the NATO alliance to make it plain to Qaddafi that if he even tried such a thing, he would lose his throne, and his ramshackle armed forces, and perhaps his worthless life, all in the course of one afternoon.)

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Anytime we help these Muslims, it goes unappreciated. Stay out of it....See, soon as I go look to see if the guy has his nose in this shyt, I see it's so:

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/n...crackdown.html

Let him do it. He's hyper. He has an election in June.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtri...0214_03_01.asp

Yep. He badly wants into that E.U. (he has tried damn near everything.) Probably, the only reason he ever started blowing Iran, was so he could offer (the E.U.) to stop blowing Iran.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtri...0214_03_01.asp

Yep. He badly wants into that E.U. (he has tried everything.)

Most of Europe does not care for Turkey.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Most of Europe does not care for Turkey.

Sarkozy n' Merkel don't want them. They won't get in until they stop being cozy with Iran. Really, the Turks don't have enough in common with the countries in the E.U. They "sacrifice" animals (for good luck.) You really think the E.U. is gunna want to be in the same club as those backward chainsmokers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhsTmiK7Q2M