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03-01-2011, 01:08 AM
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Camarero
In August of 1955 - there was a 4-year-old in Puerto Rico who was an undefeated 56-for-56 lifetime - he a winner of Puerto Rico's triple crown the year prior.
He finished his career with 73 wins from 77 lifetime starts - dying days after his final race. Was he any good? I don't know. Because I have no charts of his races and pp's for him and his competiton - what's most interesting about him - at least to me - is his pedigree. His sire Thirteen - a son of a Travers winner - was an ok alw type horse in New York that came up through the claiming ranks.  His dam Flint Maid had a pretty decent pedigree - but was quite the bum while racing at ok tracks like Tropical (Calder) and Pimlico  No luck being able to so much as guess what kind of quality Camarero had - but his pedigree sure couldn't have been more American. 
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03-01-2011, 01:10 AM
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Well, they did name a car after him.
Couldn't have been too bad.
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03-01-2011, 01:40 AM
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Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner? You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really don't want me to go down there!
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#7
03-01-2011, 09:05 AM
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Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner? You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really don't want me to go down there!
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#8
03-01-2011, 09:49 AM
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There are a couple of video clips of him anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CML-K...eature=related
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#9
03-01-2011, 09:58 AM
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Kincsem's one win in England - came as the longest shot in a field of 3 - against two horses who weren't exactly thought of as stars. The strong favorite pointing for that race got sidelined.
An old DRF article I read a while ago from the 1910's talked about how the win 'was considered no big accomplishment by latter-day European turf writers'
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#10
03-01-2011, 10:27 AM
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He certainly was/is loved in Puerto Rico, understandably.
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/wee...-turns-50.aspx
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#11
03-01-2011, 11:18 AM
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Alcohol, the cause and solution to all of life's problems. -Homer Simpson
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#12
03-01-2011, 11:25 AM
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That doesn't flow as nicely as Zenyattard. How about, instead, Kinscum? That is, Kin-scum, not the other thing.
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#13
03-01-2011, 11:33 AM
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There would probably be more message board posters than actual horses who raced during Kincsem's time. I have no idea how good horses like Camaero or Kincsem were. There are always freaks who can greatly outrun very weak pedigrees - and certainly a good horse can come from anywhere. People are always going to like undefeated horses with big win streaks. To quote a great old time racing writer ...  Certainly horses like Camaero and Kincsem never came even remotely close to passing that test.
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#15
03-01-2011, 01:48 PM
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Freddy - you've already jinxed Boys at Tosconova to affliction ... now they're posting videos of Uncle Mo working out on youtube. Whatever was ailing him - and he's certainly got a lot of fragility in his pedigree - it seems like you've jinxed him back to relative soundness.
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