Conspiracy theorists heads explode - full birth certificate released

[Riot]

Of course, the conspiracy theorists won't accept even this, I'm sure.

It does point out what an outright liar Donald Trump is (regarding "what his investigators have found" in Hawaii), and that's a good deed.



C-span also has the following documents as released by the White House at the press conference today: press secretaries release, Presidents authorization for lawyers to get certificate, lawyers request to Hawaii, Hawaii' response.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

[randallscott35]

Great. Now we can just hope he isn't reelected.

[Riot]

Sorry, Antitrust, I didn't see you'd already posted this. Perhaps the threads can be merged.

[Antitrust32]

i think you beat me by a minute... i'm waiting anxiously for Dellinger's interpretation.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

i think you beat me by a minute... i'm waiting anxiously for Dellinger's interpretation.

I hope now that it's out he can start acting in America's interest as a natural born citizen should, as opposed to a frenchmen tossing hankies around

[somerfrost]

Saw on morning news that Trump is in NH campaigning....they showed a clip of this warthog claiming: (1) the President was born in Kenya, (2) he's a Muslim and (3) he didn't deserve to get in Harvard because Trump "has heard" he was a poor student. It's well past time to shut this mother up, he up to 20% in the polls of Republican candidates and has offered no platform...nothing but personal attacks on President Obama's character. Even Republicans deserve better than this...at first he was rather funny but now he's sickening!

[Riot]

I just went and read RedState and Drudge to read the comments - what hysteria

Nearly all the comments are declaring that the document is a fake (of course!), or that the birther issue was secretly started and maintained by left wing extremists in order to paint the innocent right as racists.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Saw on morning news that Trump is in NH campaigning....they showed a clip of this warthog claiming: (1) the President was born in Kenya, (2) he's a Muslim and (3) he didn't deserve to get in Harvard because Trump "has heard" he was a poor student. It's well past time to shut this mother up, he up to 20% in the polls of Republican candidates and has offered no platform...nothing but personal attacks on President Obama's character. Even Republicans deserve better than this...at first he was rather funny but now he's sickening!

Yes, "release the transcripts" is the new whine from the haters.

[AeWingnut]

obvious forgery

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Saw on morning news that Trump is in NH campaigning....they showed a clip of this warthog claiming: (1) the President was born in Kenya, (2) he's a Muslim and (3) he didn't deserve to get in Harvard because Trump "has heard" he was a poor student. It's well past time to shut this mother up, he up to 20% in the polls of Republican candidates and has offered no platform...nothing but personal attacks on President Obama's character. Even Republicans deserve better than this...at first he was rather funny but now he's sickening!

As a bleeding heart liberal I will be contributing to his fund. Do Donald Go

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Saw on morning news that Trump is in NH campaigning....they showed a clip of this warthog claiming: (1) the President was born in Kenya, (2) he's a Muslim and (3) he didn't deserve to get in Harvard because Trump "has heard" he was a poor student. It's well past time to shut this mother up, he up to 20% in the polls of Republican candidates and has offered no platform...nothing but personal attacks on President Obama's character. Even Republicans deserve better than this...at first he was rather funny but now he's sickening!

Wow, that sounds like the same campaign that Obama ran when he won the presidency (obviously he was doing the same to President Bush).

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, "release the transcripts" is the new whine from the haters.

I try really hard not to accuse folks who actually buy into this crap of being racist but it's becoming harder by the day. I've followed politics since the late 50's and have never seen anything like the right's personal attacks on a sitting President. There were snide remarks about Bush's academics and intelligence but not by candidates and nowhere near this degree. Wallace played the race card and sadly drew significant support but was quickly rejected by both parties. Nixon learned early on how to play to the nation's paranoia....but man oh man, what's next for the Obama haters?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Wow, that sounds like the same campaign that Obama ran when he won the presidency (obviously he was doing the same to President Bush).

Any personal attacks on Bush were fact.."Mission Accomplished", etc..not this birther, Muslim crap

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Wow, that sounds like the same campaign that Obama ran when he won the presidency (obviously he was doing the same to President Bush).

Show me evidence of Obama attacking President Bush's character....it's one thing to attack policy and/or political ideology, quite another to engage in a personal smear campaign!

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Show me evidence of Obama attacking President Bush's character....it's one thing to attack policy and/or political ideology, quite another to engage in a personal smear campaign!

Well..he did say Bush was from Texas...that's a smear in itself

[Riot]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Any personal attacks on Bush were fact.."Mission Accomplished", etc..not this birther, Muslim crap

Here is the President's press conference on this issue this am. What an absurd clown show our political discourse has become:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/BirthC

** It should be noted that our television network executives chose to break into programming to televise this five minute comment by the President - the WH did NOT ask them to do so.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Here is the President's press conference on this issue this am. What an absurd clown show our political discourse has become:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/BirthC

Love how he says he didn't address it so far cause he's so busy yet like a clown takes time out and holds a press conference to announce how busy he is. Maybe he can call in sick at all his NYC fundraisers and get 'caught up' with work.

[wiphan]

Trump is an idiot. He is not even a good or legit businessman and I do not know how anyone could actually support him as a presidential candidate. I could care less about this birth certificate stuff.

What I do care about is the price of Gas, inflation, jobs, wasted government $, raising the national debt limit, the US credit rating, the devaluation of the dollar, more government invasion into our lifes, taxes, and more. All of which I see the current administration, Geithner, and Bernancke as failures so far.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Trump is an idiot. He is not even a good or legit businessman and I do not know how anyone could actually support him as a presidential candidate. I could care less about this birth certificate stuff.

What I do care about is the price of Gas, inflation, jobs, wasted government $, raising the national debt limit, the US credit rating, the devaluation of the dollar, more government invasion into our lifes, taxes, and more. All of which I see the current administration, Geithner, and Bernancke as failures so far.

You've cut to the chase on where we differ...I think we had to spend our way out of the recession, gas was too cheap and I certainly trust the govt more than I do my next door neighbor, especially if he owns a gun.

Four more years.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Trump is an idiot. He is not even a good or legit businessman and I do not know how anyone could actually support him as a presidential candidate. I could care less about this birth certificate stuff.

What I do care about is the price of Gas, inflation, jobs, wasted government $, raising the national debt limit, the US credit rating, the devaluation of the dollar, more government invasion into our lifes, taxes, and more. All of which I see the current administration, Geithner, and Bernancke as failures so far.

And those are all legit issues...we can debate the direction we should be going, responsibilities for the mess we find ourselves in etc....lively debate on the issues is the essence of democracy, personal attacks are not.