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Old 01-11-2012, 03:39 PM
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Default 1/13-16 (OP): Fifth Season; Dixie Belle; Smarty Jones

FRIDAY 8th (4:33) Fifth Season S.

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $75,000

1 Twice the Appeal Quinonez L S 122 L
2 Richmond Birzer A E 115 L
3 Color Me Blue Ocampo I 115 L
4 Enclosure Court J K 115 L
5 Bonaroo Thompson T J 115 L
6 Ballyjamesduff Stanley A O 115 L
7 It Happened Again Hill C 122 L
8 Racing Bran Emigh C A 115 L
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Old 01-12-2012, 03:32 PM
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SATURDAY 8th (4:33) Dixie Belle S.

6 Furlongs | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $50,000

1 Coyote Breeze Diego I 114 L
2 St. Louis City Hill C 114 L
3 Rocket Twentyone Razo E Jr 119 L
4 Now I Know Compton P 122 L
5 Amie's Dini Court J K 119 L
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:05 PM
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The Kentucky Derby is always a good prep for The Fifth Season. It Happened Again might roll, but I like Enclosure and Color Me Blue.
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trainer has been impressed by now i know.
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MONDAY 8th (4:33) Smarty Jones S.

1 Mile | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Laurie's Rocket Hernandez B J Jr 117 L
2 Junebugred Bravo J 115 L
3 Prince Cheval Kuntzweiler G 115 L
4 No Spin Hill C 119 L
5 Fastestwhogetspaid Ocampo I 117 L
6 Optimizer Thompson T J 115 L
7 Copus Felix J E 117 L
8 Jake Mo Berry M C 119 L
9 Hard Nosed Santana R Jr 115 L
10 On Fire Baby Johnson J M 117
11 King Coral Saez G 117 L
12 Reckless Jerry Laviolette B S 117 L
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Old 01-14-2012, 06:17 PM
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Okie-bred Now I Know (Pure Prize) perfect in 6 tries after professional 3yo debut..
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Nice to see Chalybeate Springs break his MDN..
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Don't know how many people watched the Smarty Jones, but it came back relatively solid with a 89 BSF. Junebugred was coming out of a MSW at Aqueduct that he won going a mile. This was his first start around two turns and he rated comfortably just off the lead, working out a very nice trip.

Reckless Jerry and On Fire Baby were not so fortunate and both wound up 4-5 wide the entire way. On Fire Baby will be very dangerous back against fillies and Reckless Jerry as well in the Southwest.

Hopefully D. Wayne's experiment with Optimizer as a dirt horse is over.
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Totally agree with this analysis. Reckless Jerry and On Fire Baby will have significantly better Thorograph numbers based on their trips. All three look to have a nice future.

As for D. Wayne..............does he ever stop experimenting?
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Come on......the winner faced the fastest pace of race coming into the contest and for that speed favoring course that was enough.

adding or subtracting for trip is way over-rated. The HORSE does or the horse does not. It is the horse that tells you who can run NOTHING ELSE.
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Don't know how many people watched the Smarty Jones, but it came back relatively solid with a 89 BSF. Junebugred was coming out of a MSW at Aqueduct that he won going a mile. This was his first start around two turns and he rated comfortably just off the lead, working out a very nice trip.

Reckless Jerry and On Fire Baby were not so fortunate and both wound up 4-5 wide the entire way. On Fire Baby will be very dangerous back against fillies and Reckless Jerry as well in the Southwest.

Hopefully D. Wayne's experiment with Optimizer as a dirt horse is over.
Laurie's Rocket saved most of the ground, but I still liked his effort because he finished okay despite not getting much of a breather on the front end.
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Come on......the winner faced the fastest pace of race coming into the contest and for that speed favoring course that was enough.

adding or subtracting for trip is way over-rated. The HORSE does or the horse does not. It is the horse that tells you who can run NOTHING ELSE.
The pace that Jake Mo contested in the Delta Jackpot was MUCH faster than the pace Junebugred faced in his maiden win. As was the pace in the Springboard Mile, a race that a few horses in the Smarty Jones were exiting.

If you think that trip handicapping is overrated then I'll bet you rarely win playing races.
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Old 01-17-2012, 10:43 PM
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The pace that Jake Mo contested in the Delta Jackpot was MUCH faster than the pace Junebugred faced in his maiden win. As was the pace in the Springboard Mile, a race that a few horses in the Smarty Jones were exiting.

If you think that trip handicapping is overrated then I'll bet you rarely win playing races.

Having worked at tracks for years as a hot walker, photo patrol, groom and BETTOR yo have no idea what you are talking about.

Energy distribution of incremental velocity and deceleration ratios put Junebugred near the front, and where did he reside?
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Having worked at tracks for years as a hot walker, photo patrol, groom and BETTOR yo have no idea what you are talking about.
You worked at tracks as a BETTOR?

How'd that go?
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Having worked at tracks for years as a hot walker, photo patrol, groom and BETTOR yo have no idea what you are talking about.

Energy distribution of incremental velocity and deceleration ratios put Junebugred near the front, and where did he reside?
LOL, you're making quite an impression from the start here. This should get even better going forward.
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You worked at tracks as a BETTOR?

How'd that go?
If you recognize basic syntax, the idea of working and the jobs held made up one aspect of the sentence which was followed by a separating word AND.

Didn't you ever write a term paper?
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Lets see who ran versus some of the fastest paces, after intertrack variant is added. Optimzer and Junebugred.

and who contested one of the SLOWEST, the eventual favorite, the 10
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Zilly!!!!
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no presenting fact whether you want to accept it or not
What are your thoughts on bute?
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