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Old 08-16-2012, 04:25 PM
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:35 PM
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I can. At least 13%, closer to 38% (56% if you count them all)but at least 13% for sure.
Safe to assume his 13% paid for one year is greater than my decade of earned.
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:31 PM
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my total taxes paid equals 25% of my pay. i need to send money to the caymans...oh, wait-that's only for rich people.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:02 PM
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If his 13% is legal - good for Mitt.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:22 PM
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Yeah. I've paid "at least" 13%, indeed, business and personal
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my total taxes paid equals 25% of my pay. i need to send money to the caymans...oh, wait-that's only for rich people.
Just get tremendously undervalued stock, put it in your IRA (you won't max out), then let that stock magically bloom over a few years to a value of over $100 million.

Everybody has the same "opportunity", here in "Amercia". Um ... no. They don't.

Edit: I just realized something: Romney and Ms. Romney never say "income taxes", when they talk about taxes. People have noticed that over the past week - they've been specifically coached to always say "taxes", never "income taxes". And he did it again, here.

"Paid taxes" ... just talking about state, local, mortgage, sales ...

Tonight Ann Romney is on NBC Rock Center with Brian Willams, and in her interview, she's asked about taxes, and she gets visibly mad and insulted. Watch it. She didn't help the campaign here, by looking approachable and friendly. She looks uppity. Yeah, I used that word with a white woman.
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Well he wouldn't have paid any income taxes on his governor's salary in Massachusetts because he turned down the salary.

Ann Romney has always been the epitome of class.
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:01 PM
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Well he wouldn't have paid any income taxes on his governor's salary in Massachusetts because he turned down the salary.

Ann Romney has always been the epitome of class.
Nobody cares about his state taxes. They care about his federal income taxes.

Ann Romney is not classy in the least when she disparages the American public as, "You people". Watch NBC now - she's on TV.
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Well he wouldn't have paid any income taxes on his governor's salary in Massachusetts because he turned down the salary.

Ann Romney has always been the epitome of class.
Deb you got it right
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I think it would be interesting to see Obama's and Romney's tax returns and social security statements going all the way back to when they turned 18.
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I think it would be interesting to see Obama's and Romney's tax returns and social security statements going all the way back to when they turned 18.
Why 18? Why not 15? I'd like to see the tax returns of everyone they have ever personally employed too, along with the amount that their personal businesses have contributed on behalf of those employees.
Let's see who is really paying the tax bill in this country.
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I'm far from a birther.. but it would sure be interesting to see if Obama applied to Harvard as a foreign exchange student as the rumors out there suggest.

Mitt should show his taxes, Obama should show his transcripts. Transparency for all.
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Old 08-17-2012, 04:37 PM
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I'm far from a birther.. but it would sure be interesting to see if Obama applied to Harvard as a foreign exchange student as the rumors out there suggest.

Mitt should show his taxes, Obama should show his transcripts. Transparency for all.
You don't get into Harvard Law without Good grades as an udergrad so there must be a reason he doesn't want to release his college records. Spin that Obama lovers.
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You don't get into Harvard Law without Good grades as an udergrad so there must be a reason he doesn't want to release his college records. Spin that Obama lovers.
Obama graduated Harvard Magna Cum Laude, and chosen president of Harvard Law Review. That proves his grades. Mittens also went to Harvard Law - what did he graduate with?

The constant attempt to still darken Obama as "the other", "not American", "Kenyan" "welfare President" "angry campaign of hate" is simply Lee Atwater's "Willie Horton" Southern Racist Strategy at it's most typical.

Atwater, when he was dying of cancer, said he apologized for destroying careers with his lies, and had experienced a Catholic conversion. But when they cleaned up his things, Mary Matlin said they found a Bible, never taken out of the wrapper.
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Obama graduated Harvard Magna Cum Laude, and chosen president of Harvard Law Review. That proves his grades. Mittens also went to Harvard Law - what did he graduate with?

The constant attempt to still darken Obama as "the other", "not American", "Kenyan" "welfare President" "angry campaign of hate" is simply Lee Atwater's "Willie Horton" Southern Racist Strategy at it's most typical.

Atwater, when he was dying of cancer, said he apologized for destroying careers with his lies, and had experienced a Catholic conversion. But when they cleaned up his things, Mary Matlin said they found a Bible, never taken out of the wrapper.
I see it this way... If you are screaming for Romney to show his taxes and he is asking that you show your college records then you best put up or shut up.
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Old 08-17-2012, 05:57 PM
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I see it this way... If you are screaming for Romney to show his taxes and he is asking that you show your college records then you best put up or shut up.
The President has already "put up or shut up" by releasing 12 years of his income tax returns. Time for Romney to release even one complete year of his income taxes (he hasn't yet)

What is Romney hiding from the voting public? Every candidate releases income tax returns in an act of truth and transparency.

We know Romney has offshore tax shelters in multiple countries. Obama doesn't. We know Romney has an IRA worth over $100 million dollars - how the hell did that happen? Every financial guru says it's a miracle of stock manipulation. what's your IRA worth? What's Obama's worth? (we know that answer)

Demanding Obama's grads is just another "show me your birth certificate, black man" baloney. In an attempt to paint Obama as "the other", they want to somehow show Obama didn't earn entry to Harvard on his merits. They want to "darken him up" as an affirmative action candidate. Southern Strategy, dude - it works for the GOP.

And most importantly - Obama has already been President for 3 1/2 years. What the hell do his grades have to do with anything? When does a CEO-level position have to go back decades to show his grades for a current job as a CEO? Who gives a shi.at? It's all about his current performance at the job in question. LOL !
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:20 PM
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Looking forward to watching the movie 2016...barry needs to be exposed for the wanker he is...i hope everyone will check it out
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:22 PM
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The President has already "put up or shut up" by releasing 12 years of his income tax returns. Time for Romney to release even one complete year of his income taxes (he hasn't yet)

What is Romney hiding from the voting public? Every candidate releases income tax returns in an act of truth and transparency.

We know Romney has offshore tax shelters in multiple countries. Obama doesn't. We know Romney has an IRA worth over $100 million dollars - how the hell did that happen? Every financial guru says it's a miracle of stock manipulation. what's your IRA worth? What's Obama's worth? (we know that answer)

Demanding Obama's grads is just another "show me your birth certificate, black man" baloney. In an attempt to paint Obama as "the other", they want to somehow show Obama didn't earn entry to Harvard on his merits. They want to "darken him up" as an affirmative action candidate. Southern Strategy, dude - it works for the GOP.

And most importantly - Obama has already been President for 3 1/2 years. What the hell do his grades have to do with anything? When does a CEO-level position have to go back decades to show his grades for a current job as a CEO? Who gives a shi.at? It's all about his current performance at the job in question. LOL !
Why did he pay $4mill to hide such things...hmmmmm
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:39 PM
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Why did he pay $4mill to hide such things...hmmmmm
Mitt paid $4,000,000 not to show his tax returns?..wow
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:41 PM
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If releasing his tax returns would turn the economy around, create jobs and reduce the debt then that's a different story.

Otherwise it's just a lot of useless noise.

In the end it will be the economy and when it is, Obama is a loser on that issue no matter how you spin it.
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