Random observations on 9/11

The effeminate morning guy on FoxNews said Building 7 collapsed due to a raging fire.

I might be a little slow but most buildings can sustain a fire.

Maybe we have a few engineers/scientists on the board that can explain to me how a fire could collapse that building.

CNN is talking about the iPhone 5 right now.


Remember....Never Forget.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

The effeminate morning guy on FoxNews said Building 7 collapsed due to a raging fire.

I might be a little slow but most buildings can sustain a fire.

Maybe we have a few engineers/scientists on the board that can explain to me how a fire could collapse that building.

You mean the building that could be seen standing over the shoulder of a CNN reporter as she told everyone it had already collapsed?? That building?

Originally Posted by golfer

You mean the building that could be seen standing over the shoulder of a CNN reporter as she told everyone it had already collapsed?? That building?

Yes that one.

I believe that's the same one that the BBC had a ticker running that said it collapsed while it was in the background of the live shot.

Herman Cain is sharing his experience at the golf course in Orlando, Florida during 9/11 on Fox News.

You know...working hard and whatnot.

CNBC talking about Steve Jobs.

Jobs said the U.S. lacks engineers.

What a coincidence!! Guess I'll be waiting for an answer to my question.

I don't watch the news on tv much, if at all.

I'm starting to see why things are so bad. If people are getting their news from these folks...whoa.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

CNBC talking about Steve Jobs.

Jobs said the U.S. lacks engineers willing to work for slave wages.

What a coincidence!! Guess I'll be waiting for an answer to my question.

ftfy.

How about the millions of engineers that lost their jobs due to outsourcing the last 10 years.. If it is said on TV then it is true right? Never think for a second those that those that are profiting from this behavior may also be the ones sponsoring the "unbiased" main stream media.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Apparently the failure of one column - of all of the columns in the structure - this one particular column - could have caused the type of controlled collapse with a relatively small debris field witnessed:

http://www.structuremag.org/Archives...sanz-Nov07.pdf

CNN and the BCC reporting it live before it happened? Well, they still don't have the answer for that one.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

CNBC talking about Steve Jobs.

Jobs said the U.S. lacks engineers.

What a coincidence!! Guess I'll be waiting for an answer to my question.

I laughed, but I can't answer your question.

Angelina Jolie is in Jordan today according to CNN. She's visiting Syrian refugees looking for a cute baby.

[Danzig]

http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...ecture/4278874


and yes, rosie o'donnell you fat pig, steel does and can melt. but it'll lose it's integrity long before that happens.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...eering/4213805


Steel melts at about 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit—but it loses strength at temperatures as low as 400 F. When temperatures break 1000 degrees F, steel loses nearly 50 percent of its strength. It is unknown what temperatures were reached inside WTC7, but fires in the building raged for seven hours before the collapse.

[Clip-Clop]

Random observation, Pres needs volunteers!
Oh yeah, something very sad happened 11 years ago too.

https://twitter.com/BarackObama

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Apparently the failure of one column - of all of the columns in the structure - this one particular column - could have caused the type of controlled collapse with a relatively small debris field witnessed:

http://www.structuremag.org/Archives...sanz-Nov07.pdf

CNN and the BCC reporting it live before it happened? Well, they still don't have the answer for that one.

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...ecture/4278874


and yes, rosie o'donnell you fat pig, steel does and can melt. but it'll lose it's integrity long before that happens.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...eering/4213805


Steel melts at about 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit—but it loses strength at temperatures as low as 400 F. When temperatures break 1000 degrees F, steel loses nearly 50 percent of its strength. It is unknown what temperatures were reached inside WTC7, but fires in the building raged for seven hours before the collapse.

I'd like to see some statistical odds of that happening to building 7, RBE. Has to be real small.

Yes, zig. But even you agree that really doesn't answer what happened to building 7.

I've been accustomed to seeing fires in most building collapsing a corner of the structure. But I don't believe I've ever seen a building like 7 collapse the way it did from a fire.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I'd like to see some statistical odds of that happening to building 7, RBE. Has to be real small.

Yes, zig. But even you agree that really doesn't answer what happened to building 7.

I've been accustomed to seeing fires in most building collapsing a corner of the structure. But I don't believe I've ever seen a building like 7 collapse the way it did from a fire.

did you read the whole report? seems part of the issue with 7 was the way it was engineeredd/built.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I'd like to see some statistical odds of that happening to building 7, RBE. Has to be real small.

Yes, zig. But even you agree that really doesn't answer what happened to building 7.

I've been accustomed to seeing fires in most building collapsing a corner of the structure. But I don't believe I've ever seen a building like 7 collapse the way it did from a fire.

Because of the footprint and the type of structure that 7 was the only likely cause of the fall that would make some sense structurally that I could come up with (along with a few structural engineers in my office) is that the underground support structure was compromised by the collapse. Hence the straight down fall into itself. Lower Manhattan, particularly that area is basically suspended over tons of open space for the tubes. I had them actually write something up for me. I will see if I can find it.

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Because of the footprint and the type of structure that 7 was the only likely cause of the fall that would make some sense structurally that I could come up with (along with a few structural engineers in my office) is that the underground support structure was compromised by the collapse. Hence the straight down fall into itself. Lower Manhattan, particularly that area is basically suspended over tons of open space for the tubes. I had them actually write something up for me. I will see if I can find it.

That would be great. Thanks!

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

That would be great. Thanks!

We no longer have it here, since our server died but they pointed me to the "widely known" (they are engineers mind you) Structure magazine article confirming their theory.

http://www.structuremag.org/Archives...sanz-Nov07.pdf

RBE posted that earlier. I need more explanation.

That is all other engineers have to go on? Not one of them remembers how some politicians and others reassured the public the towers were safe?

All of a sudden they and building 7 are severely flawed? So basically fiery debris caused a high rise building to collapse.

Still don't buy it.

[MaTH716]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UndqJTLin9A