Obama Calls Murder of Libyan Ambassador 'Bump in the Road"

[dellinger63]

Heartless and I can only think what the family of Chris Stevens thinks of the outrageous comment. He simply can't admit the war with terrorism goes on with or without Osama. Has time to talk to Whoopie and the gang but none for Israel, whom he publically states is our greatest ally. And not a peep from Susan Rice this weekend.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...umps-road.html

[Dahoss]

Here's what he actually said.

'I think it was absolutely the right thing for us to do to align ourselves with democracy, universal rights — a notion that people have to be able to participate in their own governance.
'But I was pretty certain and continue to be pretty certain that there are going to be bumps in the road because, you know, in a lot of these places, the one organizing principle has been Islam.'

Quite a bit different than what you're saying, isn't it Dell? Is anyone who leans right on this board capable of being genuine in their postings?

Not much of a difference to people who see through the bulls.hit of spreading democracy in Derkaland while destroying it at home.

Just because Romney is terrible doesn't mean the current office holder isn't.

[alysheba4]

at this point he might be the better choice.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Just because Romney is terrible doesn't mean the current office holder isn't.

I agree. But since he's so terrible, why not just focus on what he does terrible to make a point, instead of this nonsense?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Here's what he actually said.

'I think it was absolutely the right thing for us to do to align ourselves with democracy, universal rights — a notion that people have to be able to participate in their own governance.
'But I was pretty certain and continue to be pretty certain that there are going to be bumps in the road because, you know, in a lot of these places, the one organizing principle has been Islam.'

Quite a bit different than what you're saying, isn't it Dell? Is anyone who leans right on this board capable of being genuine in their postings?

In response to the question, .

''Have the events that took place in the Middle East, the recent events in the Middle East given you any pause about your support for the governments that have come to power following the Arab Spring?"

and considering what the recent events in the middle east were, you know the planned murder of a U.S. embassador.

Yea I'd call it heartless AND very telling about the man.

Similar to him wanting to raise taxes for those making $250K by about $8,000 a year while he saw fit to donate a thousand of his money to charity when he earned $250K. Charitable not, con-man for sure!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I agree. But since he's so terrible, why not just focus on what he does terrible to make a point, instead of this nonsense?

because this is easier. people love those 'gotcha' moments. it's what the news does best, take a bit of a total speech, and run with it. people's attention spans aren't made for real conversations now, so little snippets are what they want to deal with.
if it won't fit on twitter, it probably wasn't worth saying....


scary, isn't it?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

at this point he might be the better choice.

he who?

[Dahoss]

I need to have my head examined posting in these threads.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Heartless and I can only think what the family of Chris Stevens thinks of the outrageous comment.

Oh for gods sakes, Dell: no, the President did NOT call the murder of the Ambassador a "bump in the road"; and you might listen to the moving, tearful eulogy the President gave for all the murdered victims.

I can't believe you are so unquestioning - or probably just such an ObamaHater - that you believe this RWNJ nonsense. God, you're gullible.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Quite a bit different than what you're saying, isn't it Dell? Is anyone who leans right on this board capable of being genuine in their postings?

Thank you.

I don't care if people can't stand, or even hate, Obama. But the outright, crazy, deliberate lies are absurd. Mitt Romney has been caught out repeatedly for outright lies, and still repeats them after being caught and confronted by the press ("we won't let our campaign be governed by fact checkers" was the response to why they continue to lie)

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Is anyone who leans right on this board capable of being genuine in their postings?

Have you seen the "Mitt Romney - 'Why don't airplane windows open'", "Scott-Brown-Elizabeth Warren Debate tonight, Brown tried to weasle (sic) out", "Block the Vote-College Edition" and "Senate Republicans just killed the Veteran's Jobs Bill" threads? And that is just in the last couple of days.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

Have you seen the "Mitt Romney - 'Why don't airplane windows open'", "Scott-Brown-Elizabeth Warren Debate tonight, Brown tried to weasle (sic) out", "Block the Vote-College Edition" and "Senate Republicans just killed the Veteran's Jobs Bill" threads? And that is just in the last couple of days.

Yeah, glad you brought that up - it's a good time to review the difference between "a fact" and "disingenuousness".

Fact: "A thing that is indisputably the case."

Fact: Mitt Romney said he didn't know why airplane windows opened.

Fact: Scott Brown tried to avoid the debate by claiming he couldn't attend due to senate voting (false there were senate votes remaining that night).

Fact: Students are indeed being targeted to disqualify their student ID's (laws provided)

Fact: Senate Republicans did vote to block the Veterans Job Bill (voting record causing this exists)

Was any of the above lies, or "disingenuine"? No. It was all factual truth.

Is it a fact that President Obama called the Ambassador's death a "bump in the road"? No. That's false

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah, glad you brought that up - it's a good time to review the difference between "a fact" and "disingenuousness".

Fact: "A thing that is indisputably the case."

Fact: Mitt Romney said he didn't know why airplane windows opened.

Fact: Scott Brown tried to avoid the debate by claiming he couldn't attend.

Fact: Students are indeed being targeted to disqualify their student ID's.

Fact: Senate Republicans did vote to block the Veterans Job Bill.

Fact: Who cares what Romney thinks about airplane windows

Fact: Scott Brown was willing to do the job he was elected to do over participating in a debate.

Fact: The Voter ID issue is a canard designed to pad the voting rolls with illegal votes to help Democrats win tight races like they did with Al Franken.

Fact: Senate Republican's only blocked the vote because the law the Democrats tried to bait them with was in violation of the Budget Control Act. Further fact, Harry Reid refused to even introduce the Republican's version which did comply with the Budget Control Act. Further fact, the Republican's were willing to go with the Democrat's proposal as is but only if the Democrat's were willing to find an amount of budget cuts which would offset the increase the Democrat's proposal would add to the deficit to comply with the Budget Control Act.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

Fact: Who cares what Romney thinks about airplane windows

Fact: Scott Brown was willing to do the job he was elected to do over participating in a debate.

Fact: The Voter ID issue is a canard designed to pad the voting rolls with illegal votes to help Democrats win tight races like they did with Al Franken.

Fact: Senate Republican's only blocked the vote because the law the Democrats tried to bait them with was in violation of the Budget Control Act. Further fact, Harry Reid refused to even introduce the Republican's version which did comply with the Budget Control Act. Further fact, the Republican's were willing to go with the Democrat's proposal as is but only if the Democrat's were willing to find an amount of budget cuts which would offset the increase the Democrat's proposal would add to the deficit to comply with the Budget Control Act.

See, you can form opinions based upon facts, but you cannot dispute the facts.

Fact is not opinion. Thanks for agreeing.

So why you compared facts as being equivalent to non-fact is ... well, must be a lawyer thing. It is indeed not genuine.

Which begs the very question you failed to answer - but proves the question was valid in it's observation: "Is anyone who leans right on this board capable of being genuine in their postings?"

[jms62]

Originally Posted by pointman

Fact: Who cares what Romney thinks about airplane windows

Fact: Scott Brown was willing to do the job he was elected to do over participating in a debate.

Fact: The Voter ID issue is a canard designed to pad the voting rolls with illegal votes to help Democrats win tight races like they did with Al Franken.

Fact: Senate Republican's only blocked the vote because the law the Democrats tried to bait them with was in violation of the Budget Control Act. Further fact, Harry Reid refused to even introduce the Republican's version which did comply with the Budget Control Act. Further fact, the Republican's were willing to go with the Democrat's proposal as is but only if the Democrat's were willing to find an amount of budget cuts which would offset the increase the Democrat's proposal would add to the deficit to comply with the Budget Control Act.

Well I care what Romeny thinks about airplane windows because if he actually asked this question then he is too stupid to run the country.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by jms62

Well I care what Romeny thinks about airplane windows because if he actually asked this question then he is too stupid to run the country.

"It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of -- I don't know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing." Obama --confusing German for "Austrian," a language which does not exist, Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009.

Everyone says something stupid from time to time, I am sure I can find 10 or 20 more stupid things Obama has said. Is what Romney said worse than this quote, particularly when you are the person in charge of foreign affairs who is considered the leader of the free world?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

Well I care what Romeny thinks about airplane windows because if he actually asked this question then he is too stupid to run the country.

Give me an honest dope over a hypocritical con-man any day. Especially a dope who is so generous with his own money and so conservative with others'. He's the 'opposite George' of Obama.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pointman

"It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of -- I don't know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing." Obama --confusing German for "Austrian," a language which does not exist, Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009.

Everyone says something stupid from time to time, I am sure I can find 10 or 20 more stupid things Obama has said. Is what Romney said worse than this quote, particularly when you are the person in charge of foreign affairs who is considered the leader of the free world?

that's dumb, but not roll down the windows on an airplane dumb. not even close. also not as dumb as saying that a guy worth a quarter of a billion dollar should pay a lower effective tax rate than someone working and making 50k a year.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Danzig

that's dumb, but not roll down the windows on an airplane dumb. not even close.

How about this gem of Obama's. You want a President who doesn't know the number of States there are in the country?

"I've now been in 57 states -- I think one left to go." --at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon

As I said, everyone says something dumb and this is dumber than the airplane windows as it actually relates to the job he is doing. There are plenty more. But to focus the election on a couple of dumb statements that everyone makes from time to time is just looking for an issue that doesn't exist.