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Old 10-04-2006, 07:30 AM
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Default Beldame on Saturday

seems to be shaping up as a really great race. Here's hoping I can get a good price on my girl Round Pond.
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Old 10-04-2006, 08:03 AM
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Haven't looked much at that race yet but I think top to bottom that Servis is a better trainer than Matz.
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Old 10-04-2006, 08:06 AM
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Haven't looked much at that race yet but I think top to bottom that Servis is a better trainer than Matz.
I agree with you....
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Old 10-04-2006, 08:06 AM
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Servis no longer has Round Pond.
I know, that is what I'm saying. To me its a downgrade in trainer.
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Old 10-04-2006, 08:08 AM
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Matz seems to do better with turf runners, don't you think Rand?
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Old 10-04-2006, 08:08 AM
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I know, that is what I'm saying. To me its a downgrade in trainer.

I had to change that post when I remembered it was Matz that was now training her
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Old 10-04-2006, 08:09 AM
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Matz seems to do better with turf runners, don't you think Rand?
Yeah, completely agree. Of course he did a great job with Barbaro on the dirt, so.....
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Old 10-04-2006, 08:11 AM
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Yeah, completely agree. Of course he did a great job with Barbaro on the dirt, so.....

He did...but I will always stand by my statement that I think he would have been better left on the grass. Granted, he won the KD, but his movement, to me, seemed better suited to the grass.

Oh well...just glad the old guy is still alive.
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Old 10-04-2006, 08:13 AM
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I don't think he would've broken down from running consistently on the grass, that's for sure.

If I had a horse prepping for the Triple Crown, it would be Fair Grounds as the route or even NY. Don't like the surfaces in CA or FL.
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Old 10-04-2006, 08:22 AM
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I don't think he would've broken down from running consistently on the grass, that's for sure.

If I had a horse prepping for the Triple Crown, it would be Fair Grounds as the route or even NY. Don't like the surfaces in CA or FL.

Talking with Mike at Saratoga this summer, I completely agree with the him in that the TC races are just too close together. F*ck tradition...we need to be more worried about the well being of these horses, and having them run as 4-5 yo's. Asking a 3YO horse to run those races is just too much, IMO. Spread them out to 4 weeks apart between each race.
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Old 10-06-2006, 01:50 PM
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You guys think this will be a front runner race or a closer like Balletto??

I think Fleet Indian goes down just not sure to who??
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Old 10-06-2006, 01:52 PM
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You guys think this will be a front runner race or a closer like Balletto??

I think Fleet Indian goes down just not sure to who??
A closer like Balletto. Actually, just plain Balletto.
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Old 10-06-2006, 01:53 PM
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You guys think this will be a front runner race or a closer like Balletto??

I think Fleet Indian goes down just not sure to who??

Yeah, I'm all over Balletto for this one.. I think Fleet Indian may miss the board. ( if she's challenged up front like I think she will be)
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Old 10-06-2006, 02:12 PM
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Teammate will def be out there trying to get the lead so pace should be there
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Old 10-06-2006, 02:14 PM
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Barbaro was better on turf.
that, or he just totally hated Gulfstream's dirt track. he was bouning up and down on that surface.
total freak.

as for RPond,
she is already made.
the switch in trainer this late in the game is not going to make a huge difference I would not think.
Matz obviously knows horses and he is not going to screw up a filly this good.
she wins on Saturday and really is probably the only non Pletcher horse that can win the BC Distaff.


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Old 10-06-2006, 02:15 PM
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Kev,
I also like Round Pond. That said, and you might think i'm crazy for saying so, i think Teammate will find the line first. Box them for your ex.
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Old 10-06-2006, 08:41 PM
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Okay so call me a little biased...but I have been all over Round Pond for 2 years now and I think she comes up big tomorrow....I also agree that it was a downgrade in trainers but there was a lot involved in that and it's unfortunate...with that said, tomorrow will say alot, but I think she is still as good as any filly out there....
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Old 10-06-2006, 09:02 PM
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I think either Take D Tour wires them, or Tammate wins from just off the pace. Not buying Fleet Indian in here. Balleto is everybody's wise guy play of the day but the horse clearly cant beat Take D Tour. Shes lost to her 3 straight times. Why should tomorrow be any different?

Fleet Indian 6/5
Round Pound 5/2
Take D Tour 4/1
Balleto 4/1
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Old 10-06-2006, 10:15 PM
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A closer like Balletto. Actually, just plain Balletto.
After further review I think Round Pond has a shot too. Her best figures have come when the race has gone in fast fractions. I still like Balletto a little more but will be playing both of them in the top spot. You can box that up though for an easy exacta.
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Old 10-06-2006, 10:15 PM
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I think either Take D Tour wires them, or Tammate wins from just off the pace. Not buying Fleet Indian in here. Balleto is everybody's wise guy play of the day but the horse clearly cant beat Take D Tour. Shes lost to her 3 straight times. Why should tomorrow be any different?

Fleet Indian 6/5
Round Pound 5/2
Take D Tour 4/1
Balleto 4/1
Teammate 7/1
Balletto beat Take D Tour in the Go For Wand when Take D Tour had to actually face some pace pressure.
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