Jockey's pay, interesting info

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I asked someone who I knew would not BS me (wife of a jockey) how much he gets paid. It works this way - If he wins he gets 10% of 60% of the purse. This is what blew me away, at Beulah second on back - $45. For every Jockey. What kind of expenses do Jockeys have besides the obvious, meaning rent etc.. What kind of expenses in relation to their job?

[MISTERGEE]

There Biggest Expense Would Be Paying Their Agents I Believe

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I wonder what Jockey's get paid in other markets?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

There Biggest Expense Would Be Paying Their Agents I Believe

You think it's cheap to get someone to interpret the comics for you?

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You think it's cheap to get someone to interpret the comics for you?

Or to apologize to trainers for the mistakes and promise not to do it again the next time?
Good agents also take donuts to barns of the winning mounts the next morning. I'm not kidding.

[MISTERGEE]

Ok I Guess I'll Take A Dozen Krispy Kremes, Unless Any Of You Know A Tastier Donut, Ha Ha

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

Ok I Guess I'll Take A Dozen Krispy Kremes, Unless Any Of You Know A Tastier Donut, Ha Ha

dough daddy's on versailles rd couple miles up from Keeneland...

[Gander]

Krispy Kremes are the worst donuts ever made. Not fit to be called a donut.

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

Ok I Guess I'll Take A Dozen Krispy Kremes, Unless Any Of You Know A Tastier Donut, Ha Ha

Tell you a funny story, I will never forget it. I worked for an owner who had the same tradition. If he had a horse win the next morning he went to the winning barn and brought two dozen doughnuts for the help. One morning we had gone to watch works and he and I and his wife went and got the doughnuts afterwards to bring to the barn of this high profile trainer.
Upon pulling in front of the barn, the grooms and help came running. They were eagerly awaiting the doughnuts. His wife and I sat in the car. His wife is a wonderful person through and through but doesn't say much very often. She made an astute comment and observation while watching the help come running that I never forgot and I never would have thought of. She said "You'd think with all the money this guy makes(meaning the trainer), that he could buy these poor guys some doughnuts every day."

[The Bid]

Thats so true too. During a record meet I consistantly took the help out to lunches, dinners, out to watch football. Just really treated them well. You would think the trainer would do something nice for them but it never crossed his mind. Infact I sent a special letter over the weekend because the one guy had a kid, gave him a couple hundred, and thanked him. These guys work very hard, its grueling to wake up every morning and work, its brutal. Im sure there are some trainers who recognize the help, but usually trainers just use them.

[blackthroatedwind]

Noted philanthropist Jerry Bailey supposedly tipped the entire barn $1000 after winning the Derby on Sea Hero.

I would have preferred donuts.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Noted philanthropist Jerry Bailey supposedly tipped the entire barn $1000 after winning the Derby on Sea Hero.

I would have preferred donuts.

Pat Day talked the talk and walked the walk. Not gonna name names, but I know Bid will know this story being a KY guy(Bid its Steves site so please don't even give a clue as to who this is). Pat's agent told me this story, so I know its legit.
Pat Day is as good a human being as anyone I ever met. If I ever could bring myself to live life one-tenth as good as Pat has I'd be proud.
After a breeders cup win for certain barn, Pat sent his agent over to the barn with a HUGE check to be given to the help. HUGE. gave it to the trainer and his wife. Word got back to pat that the help never got the check. Nice huh? So pat sent Doc over with another one to give directly. Now thats class. And anyone who has ever met Pat won't doubt this for a second.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Pat Day talked the talk and walked the walk. Not gonna name names, but I know Bid will know this story being a KY guy(Bid its Steves site so please don't even give a clue as to who this is). Pat's agent told me this story, so I know its legit.
Pat Day is as good a human being as anyone I ever met. If I ever could bring myself to live life one-tenth as good as Pat has I'd be proud.
After a breeders cup win for certain barn, Pat sent his agent over to the barn with a HUGE check to be given to the help. HUGE. gave it to the trainer and his wife. Word got back to pat that the help never got the check. Nice huh? So pat sent Doc over with another one to give directly. Now thats class. And anyone who has ever met Pat won't doubt this for a second.

I first really got into horse racing during the Easy Goer and Sunday Silence battles... I always liked Pat Day and even more when he rode Unbridled to his BCC win.

[Seattleallstar]

I talked to Pat Day for five minutes when he was here, smart guy

Originally Posted by Cardus

A friend of mine goes to the Derby every year, and usually hangs out around the walking ring and the passage way to the jocks room. He is pretty good at getting jocks to sign posters, programs, etc. (It's for his collection, he is not an e-bay hawk.) After the 2004 Derby, Pat Day is walking back to the jockeys' quarters full of mud, beaten badly if I recall. He sees a 90-year-old man being pushed in his wheelchair by his son. The man's tee-shirt says, "I'm 90 years old, and this is my first Derby." Day hops a fence and spends five minutes with the man. It had to make his day.

Day could have kept walking, but took time out after the world's biggest race to meet someone. That's great.

(And to think that no big-name jockey gets more crap than him at Belmont Park.)

His rides were questionable at best on easy Goer and even worse on the Seeking the Gold(pull up his travers sometime, I still get angry and red faced watching it).
But as a human being hes one of the most incredible people you will ever meet. That story with the man in the wheelchair is pretty much what you would expect from Pat. Not surprising at all. In a world where so many people don't practice what they preach, Pat is a man who preaches so much, and practices every bit of that and more.
That being said his rides on Goer and Seeking The Gold probably took years off Shug's life.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Cardus

A friend of mine with a small stable that races in New York thinks that Day's riding record was, to some degree, a reflection of a perenially weak Kentucky riding colony. Agree or disagree?

I remember Day's interview with Chris "Mad Dog" Russo from WFAN here in New York, after the Breeders' Cup Classic vs. Sunday Silence. After Russo -- who might know that a horse has four legs, it's a 50-50 on that one -- berates him for his ride, Day tells him that he knows nothing about racing and hangs up.

Can't say I blame Pat on that one... better that than to argue it til he's blue in the face like Clinton tends to do. LMAO...

I didn't understand enough about racing when Pat was riding Easy Goer to know that he rode him poorly... I was only 9.

[Seattleallstar]

Sunday SIlence was better than Easy Goer

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

Sunday SIlence was better than Easy Goer

Yeah he sure looked it in the belmont didn't he? Only got beat a football field.

[Seattleallstar]

ky derby, preakness, BC..hmmmmmmmmm

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

ky derby, preakness, BC..hmmmmmmmmm

small margins with qustionable rides.
They both got clear trips on no medication one time, and Easy Goer drilled him and humiliated him.
And of course we all know about the famous attending vet Harthill(now passed away) and his famous methods Seattle, but you are too young and dumb to understand what journalists tried to say between the lines about him and SS when Goer couldnt even run on lasix.
Tell you what I do KNOW!!! When SS shipped to belmont they told ole Charlie that there was gonna be round the clock surveillance on his horse, "to make sure he was safe and noone got to him". LOL!!! Ole charlie sure was full of bravado after the Derby and before the Preakness, but was awfully bitter and on edge the weekend of the Belmont.
The real deal was that Easy Goers connections knew and felt that ole Doc Harthill was the problem. And no way, no how was he getting near him before the Belmont.
We know the rest, Easy Goer disposed of SS like tissue paper under a snug hold and just cruised home. Funny what happens when horses are put under surveillance huh.