2/12-14 (CD): Kentucky Derby Future Wager ~ Pool 2

[Kasept]

2016 Kentucky Derby Future Wager Pool 2

1 Airoforce 20-1
2 Awesome Banner* 30-1
3 Brody’s Cause 30-1
4 Cherry Wine* 50-1
5 Cocked and Loaded 50-1
6 Collected* 30-1

7 Danzing Candy* 30-1
8 Discreetness* 50-1
9 Exaggerator 20-1
10 Gettysburg* 50-1
11 Gift Box 30-1
12 Greenpointcrusader 20-1

13 Gun Runner 50-1
14 Mo Tom 50-1
15 Mohaymen 8-1
16 Mor Spirit 15-1
17 Nyquist 12-1
18 Shagaf* 30-1

19 Smokey Image * 30-1
20 Tom’s Ready 50-1
21 Vorticity* 50-1
22 Whitmore* 50-1
23 Zulu* 30-1
24 Mutuel Field (All Others) 4-5

[Kasept]

BRIS PP'S http://www.brisnet.com/brisnet_promos/Derby16FW2.pdf

[Dunbar]

Link to live odds:

https://www.kentuckyderby.com/wager/...r/derby-pool-2


(They've forgotten to include info on how much has been bet into the exacta pool.)

[Dunbar]

Churchill Downs seems to frequently mess up the Future Bet process. They have not updated the odds feed for Pool 2 since midnight. Betting ends in a little more than 3 hours, but there's no good info on what the current odds are.

[Kasept]

Airoforce 20/1 16
Awesome Banner 30/1 50
Brody's Cause 30/1 14
Cherry Wine 50/1 30
Cocked and Loaded 50/1 90
Collected 30/1 45

Danzing Candy 30/1 25
Discreetness 50/1 70
Exaggerator 20/1 22
Gettysburg 50/1 60
Gift Box 30/1 50
Greenpointcrusader 20/1 30

Gun Runner 50/1 23
Mo Tom 50/1 30
Mohaymen 8/1 4
Mor Spirit 15/1 12
Nyquist 12/1 7
Shagaf 30/1 30

Smokey Image 30/1 19
Tom's Ready 50/1 80
Vorticity 50/1 90
Whitmore 50/1 80
Zulu 30/1 24
All Other Three Year Olds 4/5 3

[Dunbar]

Thanks, kasept.

By 5pm the odds were streaming again. There's still no info I can find about how much has been bet into the exacta pool. I'm going to have to guess it'll be on the order of $120,000, based on previous years.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Thanks, kasept.

By 5pm the odds were streaming again. There's still no info I can find about how much has been bet into the exacta pool. I'm going to have to guess it'll be on the order of $120,000, based on previous years.

119k and change

[Dunbar]

The feed from KentuckyDerby.com sputtered to a halt again at 5:36pm, making the homestretch even more guess work.

Final odds on All Others looks to be 2.6-1.

[blackthroatedwind]

Wait....Mohaymen went off at 4:1??????

Wow. Imagine what price he would have been if he ran a fast race.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Wait....Mohaymen went off at 4:1??????

Wow. Imagine what price he would have been if he ran a fast race.

Insane price. Even if he wins out he's like 9/2 day of. Mor Spirit could be 5-1,6-1 day of, I was going to take him at 15-1, 12 was a tad short.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Wait....Mohaymen went off at 4:1??????

Wow. Imagine what price he would have been if he ran a fast race.

Mohaymen closed at 4.3 - 1, and was a good part of the reason the All Others closed at a generous 2.6 - 1, its highest value in 8 years. With so few standout 3-yr-olds so far, I expected much lower All Others odds.

[knickslions2]

I threw a few shillings on Awesome Banner and Dazing Candy.

[Dunbar]

Here are the will-pays:

https://www.kentuckyderby.com/upload...WOddsPool2.pdf

and the exacta payoff grid:

https://www.kentuckyderby.com/upload...xProbables.pdf

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

I threw a few shillings on Awesome Banner and Dazing Candy.

Awesome Banner? He should be pointed to the prestigious Bay Shore-Woody Stephens-Amsterdam-Kings Bishop 4 some.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Awesome Banner? He should be pointed to the prestigious Bay Shore-Woody Stephens-Amsterdam-Kings Bishop 4 some.

Hey let's see how fountain of youth goes

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Hey let's see how fountain of youth goes

Against the almighty Zulu? He could wire that field.... Just think he will end up being distance challenged.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Against the almighty Zulu? He could wire that field.... Just think he will end up being distance challenged.

Distance challenge is a problem but he is fast and this crop is slow

[richard burch]

Awesome Banner is going to be the "wise guy" horse.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Here are the will-pays:

https://www.kentuckyderby.com/upload...WOddsPool2.pdf

and the exacta payoff grid:

https://www.kentuckyderby.com/upload...xProbables.pdf

That's very interesting. nice link. $2 across the board is $48. 17 of those horses/wagers will give you more than that...

[athornton5]

Im a Mo Tom fan, really like the turn of foot on this horse, seems like the more he runs the better he gets. Just missed againts Mor Spirit back in november. Ive got $20 on him at 30-1