9/24 (PRX): Cotillion (G1), PA Derby (G2), Gallant Bob (G3)

[Kasept]

7th (3:12) Alphabet Soup H.

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Bern' James Bern Lopez P 116 L
2 Forest Rim Potts C L 117 L
3 Granny's Kitten Geroux F 121 L
4 I'll Call Carmouche K 118 L
5 Raging Market Conner T 117 L
6 Vito Tony N Billy Corujo W 111 L
7 Uncle Dave Vargas J A Jr 122 L
8 Edge of Reality Rose J 122 L
9 Pink Elephant Wolfsont A 112 L
10 Willy d'Rocket Pennington F 116 L
11 Forward Thinker Smith M E 117 L

A-Coupled: Forest Rim and Forward Thinker



8th (3:41) Gallant Bob S. (G3)

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Mind Your Biscuits 122 L
2 Threefiveindia Castellano J J 120 L
3 Navy Hymn Bejarano R 118 L
4 Noholdingback Bear Da Silva E R 120 L
5 Counterforce Geroux F 120 L
6 Full Salute Pennington F 118 L
7 Awesome Speed Lopez P 120 L
8 Cocked and Loaded Silvera R 118 L
9 Yellow Chips Bravo J 118 L
10 Cardio Cowboy Carmouche K 118 L
11 Klingon Warrior Lopez C C 118 L
12 Who's Out Smith M E 118 L

A-Coupled: Full Salute and Yellow Chips



9th (4:14) Pa Derby Champion S.

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Cyrus Alexander Bejarano R 121 L
2 Encryption Juarez N 121 L
3 Bodhisattva Hole T M 119 L
4 Res Judicata Castellano J J 121 L
5 Mr. Jordan Lopez P 119 L
6 War Story Pennington F 119 Blk-On L
7 Tale of Life (JPN) Geroux F 121 L



10th (4:55) Cotillion S. (G1)

1 1/16 Miles | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Carina Mia Leparoux J R 124 L
2 Cathryn Sophia Castellano J J 124 L
3 Disco Rose Rivera E 117 L
4 Land Over Sea Gutierrez Mario 122 L
5 Songbird Smith M E 124 L
6 Queena Esther Cedeno C 117 L



11th (5:45) Pennsylvania Derby (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $1,250,000

1 Awesome Slew Lopez P 122 L
2 Exaggerator Desormeaux K J 124 L
3 Summer Revolution Smith M E 117 L
4 Connect Castellano J J 119 L
5 Cupid Bejarano R 122 L
6 Wild About Deb Pereira T J 117 L
7 Gun Runner Geroux F 122 L
8 My Man Sam Leparoux J R 117 L
9 Nyquist Gutierrez Mario 124 L
10 Sunny Ridge Bravo J 122 L
11 Discreet Lover Flores J L 117 L
12 Hit It Once More Carmouche K 119 L

[Alabama Stakes]

On a Fast track it will be nyquist all alone

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

On a Fast track it will be nyquist all alone

Highly unlikely

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Highly unlikely

You goin down to do a rain dance ?

[RHT2004]

No

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Looks like a road trip to PARX Saturday!

[RHT2004]

I'm using 3,4,5 and maybe a little 12 in the Derby. Again tossing Songbird who on paper is no faster then at least 2 of her rivals. And has to ship across country again.

[declansharbor]

Anyone else wish they would cut Summer Revolution back to 6 or 7 panels?

Or at least become a little more realistic in placing him.

I'm excited for this horse's future, but I just think he's in over his head at a distance that I would consider his absolute max.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Anyone else wish they would cut Summer Revolution back to 6 or 7 panels?

Or at least become a little more realistic in placing him.

I'm excited for this horse's future, but I just think he's in over his head at a distance that I would consider his absolute max.

The owner contemplated running him in the Travers.

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Anyone else wish they would cut Summer Revolution back to 6 or 7 panels?

Or at least become a little more realistic in placing him.

I'm excited for this horse's future, but I just think he's in over his head at a distance that I would consider his absolute max.

Yeah.

My biggest issue (outside of class) is the horse hasn't shown in any of the 3 races that it will run a horse down after the opening half.

And I don't see the horse having an easy lead.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

I'm using 3,4,5 and maybe a little 12 in the Derby. Again tossing Songbird who on paper is no faster then at least 2 of her rivals. And has to ship across country again.

4,5,7 for me. Will single Cathryn Sophia in my P3 as no real money to be made singling Songbird.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

I'm using 3,4,5 and maybe a little 12 in the Derby. Again tossing Songbird who on paper is no faster then at least 2 of her rivals. And has to ship across country again.

While she is no lock in this race Timeform has her at least 4-5 points better than the second best horse in the race, 5-7 better than the third.

I dont look at Beyers any more so assume that is your figure maker of choice,

[Holybull1]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Anyone else wish they would cut Summer Revolution back to 6 or 7 panels?

Or at least become a little more realistic in placing him.

I'm excited for this horse's future, but I just think he's in over his head at a distance that I would consider his absolute max.

What about his pedigree or running style makes you think he's better sprinting? Serious question, not trying to instigate anything.

[Secretriat34]

looks like easy pickins in the pick tickets at Parx sat with the songbird single and the usual suspects in the Pa Derby ( triple crown colts and CUPID)

any thoughts to narrow down the play and make it a dollar wager..

I like Baffert here...he seems to have all tyhe right "juice" as we head toward a BC out there on the western island...although with the removal of the polly mandate its not so much an island anymore..

so who do you like at PArx sat 9-24

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Secretriat34

looks like easy pickins in the pick tickets at Parx sat with the songbird single and the usual suspects in the Pa Derby ( triple crown colts and CUPID)

any thoughts to narrow down the play and make it a dollar wager..

I like Baffert here...he seems to have all tyhe right "juice" as we head toward a BC out there on the western island...although with the removal of the polly mandate its not so much an island anymore..

so who do you like at PArx sat 9-24

Cupid should be 30-1 in that race.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Cupid should be 30-1 in that race.

The race looks disappointing on paper. Only Nyquist and Exaggerator warrant any serious respect on past performance, but both are in questionable form.

O'Neill finally has voiced what many had grumbled about after the Preakness and Haskell. Why was the horse being sent given his settled performances in the BC and the Kentucky Derby? Hopefully, they follow through an try to adopt a stalking position in here with some decent front-running speed from Cupid and presumably Summer Revolution. The concern is that the lemon has been squeezed dry, if not by his races, then by his workout tab, which is utterly ridiculous. 4 mile workouts of increasing speed just seems like overkill, and O'Neill may be changing things up too much despite the colt going undefeated in his first 8 starts.

Exaggerator has caused concern with some poor workouts and poor races, but how much of that is Kent Desormeaux? I think a lot of it is him, particularly the Belmont and Travers. Horse wouldn't have won either, but in the Travers he seemed to be making a bid and Desormeaux didn't follow through in what turned out to be a lopsided race anyhow. His recent work is sharp and whether or not he prefers the mud is immaterial, he's good enough on a fast track. However, its all moot, because his race simply depends on Desormeaux's mindset during the actual race.

Sunny Ridge looked interesting as a possible upsetter for about 5 seconds, until one notes all the layoff lines, including following his most recent (which was also off a layoff). Despite the layoff, he has just a single work since his last in the last 6 weeks. Not counting on that.

The only thing to consider with Cupid is whether or not, being by Tapit, Coolmore elects to bring him back out as a 4yo in order to try and earn a Grade 1. Physically, he might not be able to anyways. I guess if he can beat two Classic winners in the same race they can call it a day without the Grade 1. Would save me from having to watch any further horrific stretch runs from this horse.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

While she is no lock in this race Timeform has her at least 4-5 points better than the second best horse in the race, 5-7 better than the third.

The only thing Cathryn Sophia and Carina Mia have going for them is that the race is only 8.5f, so Songbird probably won't win be able to spread-eagle the field on the far turn.

Cathryn Sophia cannot handle a fast pace in a route from any early position, and this race will have a sharp pace. Furthermore, Castellano likes to make early bids with this horse, which has cost her a couple of times at odds-on. Not really convinced she's a two-turn horse anyways, and its seems neither is Servis, who only called an audible when entering the KY Oaks (because Songbird was absent) and promptly went back to one-turn in the Acorn before disappearing during most of the summer.

Carina Mia is reunited with Leparoux, which might mean she will take back under a hold as she did in the Acorn. Having got his and her heads handed back to them by Songbird in the CCA Oaks, I presume he will wait until the stretch to pounce in the stretch. The problems are that first, she is coming off a 7f race in which he contested the lead and so may not be willing to settle and second, there might be too much ground to make up if Songbird is untouched early. Leparoux has to hope Castellano moves too soon with Cathryn Sophia.

[Pants II]

Songbird has to bounce hard or the comp has to have a career number to beat her.

Penn Derby I'm going with the Travers bounce and using 1,10,12 primarily and chalk saver with Nyquist.

[pweizer]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Cupid should be 30-1 in that race.

I wouldn't take him at 30-1 either.

Paul

[Secretriat34]

Trainer John Servis has a plan. - Cathryn Sophia

"I can't give away my strategy," Servis coyly responded when asked what instruction he will give jockey Javier Castellano in their attempt to thwart the beautiful force that is champion filly Songbird.

Part of what Servis is counting on headed into in the $1 million Cotillion Stakes (gr. I) Sept. 24 at Parx Racing is the fact Songbird has yet to hook a rival who offers what his Longines Kentucky Oaks (gr. I)-winning charge, Cathryn Sophia, brings to the table.
Cash is King's Cathryn Sophia looms as a new threat who could throw a previously unseen wrinkle at the bay daughter of Medaglia d'Oro.

In addition to owning two wins over the Parx surface, including her 6 1/2-length win in the Princess of Sylmar Stakes on Sept. 3, Maryland-bred Cathryn Sophia has flaunted her own fearsome level of tactical brilliance, earning her six career victories by a combined winning margin of 50 3/4 lengths.

Even her two defeats have been admirable efforts, running third in both the April 9 Central Bank Ashland Stakes (gr. I) at Keeneland and the June 11 Acorn Stakes (gr. I) at Belmont Park.

"I wonder if (Songbird) has hooked into a filly as good as mine," Servis said.

"But she came into her last race (at Parx) really well and I couldn't have written the script any better. She didn't have to put out too much of an effort to get the win and I think it will set her up good for this race coming up."

"We freshened her up (after the Acorn) and she needed that," Servis said. "It should be very interesting this Saturday."

SOUNDS LIKE KASEPT NEEDS SERVIS ON HIS RADIO SHOW ...NO ?