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Old 11-11-2006, 07:09 PM
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Haven't had a good chance to look over the PPs yet -- but will be playing Churchill tomorrow. If anyone thinks they've got a live horse to take a good long look at -- here's the place to share!
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Old 11-12-2006, 08:59 AM
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Race 3 - Susie's Gal - She is a half-sister to Bright One and should appreciate the added ground to around two turns being by Alphabet Soup....her low last-out Beyer fig will make her a decent value in here for Romans...

Race 6 - Neon Lipstick - Can upset in a WIDE-OPEN race, as many have seconditis....bad, bad race and wouldn't be surprised to see a big price win it....

Race 8 - Right Place N Time - Good betting race...I like Go Bucky Go but he will get a lot of early pressure and the CD stretch may be just a bit long to hold up off the layoff.....Right Place N Time is a nice horse who obviously hated Polytrack and his price will benefit from that....He'll be flying late and is the value of the race...

Race 10 - Catmeifyoucan - Classic Asmussen spotting pattern....these don't lose often....

Good luck, man!
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Old 11-12-2006, 10:42 AM
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Race 3 - Susie's Gal - She is a half-sister to Bright One and should appreciate the added ground to around two turns being by Alphabet Soup....her low last-out Beyer fig will make her a decent value in here for Romans...

Race 6 - Neon Lipstick - Can upset in a WIDE-OPEN race, as many have seconditis....bad, bad race and wouldn't be surprised to see a big price win it....

Race 8 - Right Place N Time - Good betting race...I like Go Bucky Go but he will get a lot of early pressure and the CD stretch may be just a bit long to hold up off the layoff.....Right Place N Time is a nice horse who obviously hated Polytrack and his price will benefit from that....He'll be flying late and is the value of the race...

Race 10 - Catmeifyoucan - Classic Asmussen spotting pattern....these don't lose often....

Good luck, man!
thanks man, i'll take a long look at those and get back to you tonight! - bw
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Old 11-12-2006, 02:06 PM
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Would have given out CORPORAL at 23-1 in the first but they didn't want it spread for claim reasons....too bad he was claimed anyway and the horse should have won....ran second after clipping heals down the backstretch....he was mcuh the best and ran second....only had him to win too

Also, Al Stall is really the trainer on Bright Hall (runnnig under Reinstedler's name but going with Al to FG) in the 7th and loves the horse although he is running out of his conditions....I like Hanky Panky in the race for what its worth.....
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Old 11-12-2006, 02:25 PM
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Nice pick in the 3rd CR, how well do you like the 12 in the 8th? I am trying to put a tri together I like the 1 very much 7,8, 10.
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Old 11-12-2006, 02:32 PM
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[quote=Cunningham Racing]Would have given out CORPORAL at 23-1 in the first but they didn't want it spread for claim reasons.......YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING...REDBOARDING IS ILLEGAL AT DT you have been warned...not to mention that you giving out a horse thats getting claimed is so wrong on many levels..one has nothing to do with the other.....please.....red boarding even a cave man can do it!!

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Old 11-12-2006, 02:55 PM
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Would have given out CORPORAL at 23-1 in the first but they didn't want it spread for claim reasons.......YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING...REDBOARDING IS ILLEGAL AT DT you have been warned...not to mention that you giving out a horse thats getting claimed is so wrong on many levels..one has nothing to do with the other.....please.....red boarding even a cave man can do it!!
I am very close to the Werner camp and when a first-time starter is running for maiden $15,000 claimers, you don't run your mouth when they like a horse....AND IT IS STRICTLY FOR CLAIM REASONS...this one was claimed anyway so it is likely that word was out enough.....

That makes negative post #3 from you today, Hooves.....Remember, by DT law you only have two more and it is noty even 3 yet...use them wisely
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Old 11-12-2006, 02:58 PM
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Nice pick in the 3rd CR, how well do you like the 12 in the 8th? I am trying to put a tri together I like the 1 very much 7,8, 10.
You have to like Bejarano on a horse who seems to love the one-turn mile trip, likes CD, and is always tough when they have to drop into these conditional-claiming spots to get a win because the horse is a shade below a-other-thans in KY......Wilkes is solid enough...He rates the best chance to win IMO...The Bright Hall horse is the steam horse if you care to know what the connections think - but I would still lean to Hanky Pank.

Good luck, man...
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Old 11-12-2006, 03:05 PM
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I am very close to the Werner camp and when a first-time starter is running for maiden $15,000 claimers, you don't run your mouth when they like a horse....AND IT IS STRICTLY FOR CLAIM REASONS...this one was claimed anyway so it is likely that word was out enough.....

That makes negative post #3 from you today, Hooves.....Remember, by DT law you only have two more and it is noty even 3 yet...use them wisely
well joel we are going to have to paint you yellow and call you one way...you want priase for giving the public dters a capt obv 8/5 shot but you keep the 23-1 to yourself....oh i see how you are.......
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Old 11-12-2006, 03:39 PM
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well joel we are going to have to paint you yellow and call you one way...you want priase for giving the public dters a capt obv 8/5 shot but you keep the 23-1 to yourself....oh i see how you are.......
Again, had it not been an attempt at stealing a race and them not wanting to lose a horse for $15K that nobody knew anything about - then I would have given it away....I get these on occasion and when they tell you not to say a word - you DON'T say a word because claims on horses are at stake....
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Old 11-12-2006, 03:46 PM
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Al Stall's horse (Bright Hall running under Reinstedler's name) got the money like they thought....paid $12.80
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Old 11-12-2006, 03:50 PM
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you liked hanky panky..for what its worth...i tabbed bright hall on top this am..lol
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Old 11-12-2006, 03:58 PM
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you liked hanky panky..for what its worth...i tabbed bright hall on top this am..lol
Nice job....I used them both, as my opinion was not strong on Hanky Panky from the far outside in a one-turn mile...I actually don't like much todat at the Church...the 8th is a great betting race but the two horses I like have the two worst posts...

Go Bucky Go drew the rail and has to be sent from there and may come up short down that long CD stretch if pressed hard, which he figures to be....Right Place N Time should be closing and I liked him alot on his Polytrack debacles thinking his price would be 10-1-ish, but they are betting him down and I'm not sure if its worth it from the far outside going six panels....Curtain Bluff also fits in a wide-open race....But this is just reading the Form - I don't have Sheets or anything on today's races.....

I'll probably play a little on Asmussen's horse if the price floats up a bit to pass the time.....the football games on TV suck today
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Old 11-12-2006, 04:01 PM
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Nice job....I used them both, as my opinion was not strong on Hanky Panky from the far outside in a one-turn mile...I actually don't like much todat at the Church...the 8th is a great betting race but the two horses I like have the two worst posts...

Go Bucky Go drew the rail and has to be sent from there and may come up short down that long CD stretch if pressed hard, which he figures to be....Right Place N Time should be closing and I liked him alot on his Polytrack debacles thinking his price would be 10-1-ish, but they are betting him down and I'm not sure if its worth it from the far outside going six panels....Curtain Bluff also fits in a wide-open race....But this is just reading the Form - I don't have Sheets or anything on today's races.....

I'll probably play a little on Asmussen's horse if the price floats up a bit to pass the time.....the football games on TV suck today
jets jets jets...note to tj huzmansata keep your head up...lol

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Old 11-12-2006, 04:11 PM
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Go Bucky Go is breaking from post 5, not the rail.
My bad...was seeing on CD site that he was listed first as POE and entrymate scratched.....either way, he'll he plenty of heat up front from Grand Escape and others....that strcth can be a LONG one to finish down for layoff horses in a tough field....think he's the best on ability, but not sure how good of a betting proposition he is based on how the race figures to unfold....
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Old 11-13-2006, 10:40 AM
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<<Race 8 - Right Place N Time - Good betting race...I like Go Bucky Go but he will get a lot of early pressure and the CD stretch may be just a bit long to hold up off the layoff.....Right Place N Time is a nice horse who obviously hated Polytrack and his price will benefit from that....He'll be flying late and is the value of the race...>>

So much for flying late!!!..I didn't realize Bridgmohan would try to press a fast pace while racing in the middle of the track from the freakin' 12-hole.....I swear, these jocks will KILL you at times....
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Old 11-13-2006, 12:44 PM
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Hey Cunningham

Two inquiries: 1) If you are close to the Werner camp why not some steam on Grand Escape? He looked best on the paper and ran a huge race.

And 2) Why the knock on Bridgmohan? His mount (Rightplaceintime) had not run competitively since the injury, and in his last he ran very poorly. Thanks.
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:52 PM
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Hey Cunningham

Two inquiries: 1) If you are close to the Werner camp why not some steam on Grand Escape? He looked best on the paper and ran a huge race.

And 2) Why the knock on Bridgmohan? His mount (Rightplaceintime) had not run competitively since the injury, and in his last he ran very poorly. Thanks.
Like 90% of the horses from that barn, he didn't like the Polytrack - and that was the surface he had been running on in his last few races when turning in bad efforts.....I didn't like the fact that Bridge sent him into what we knew was going to be a quick pace - and an obvious wide, dueling trip for him....that horse can rate...I watched him do it last winter at FG when it looked like he was cut out to be a nice horse....didn't need to shoot to the lead there from post 12...

Grand Escape was steam in his first start last year at FG (I think he lost actually...pps not in front of me) and he was steam when Ronny got him on the grass and we cashed good on him then...Its not that he wasn't liked in the race, it is that I believed him to be better sprinting on the grass....

That allowance race had plenty of speed and it looked like it would soften him up like iot did Asmussen's horse and the favorite.....Remember, steam is like any other advice - you get a lot of it and you have to know when to take it and who to take it from ....deciphering through it is actually more art than science
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Old 11-13-2006, 04:40 PM
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Find it hard to believe that 90 percent of a trainers stock did not like a surface!

Rightplacerighttime has all the look of a "runoff". He did pass a few in his allowance score but he was 3-5 and the last three eighths was in a glacial forty seconds.

You must have bet a ton when Grand Escape won on the grass; he paid $3.20
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Old 11-13-2006, 05:31 PM
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"Some of ours just didn't run well on the Polytrack (at Keeneland). They trained well over there, which is fine, but some of them just didn't run well over it. I'm not bad-mouthing it - it's just a fact."

--Scott Blasi

...Believe me, this barn is extremely sharp about knowing when their horses are going to fire big...ust trust me on that one...probably the best at REALLY knowing than most out there, and even they didn't know what the hell was going on with their stock at KEE.....
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