Am I reading this right?

Guys I gotta be honest, I'm only chasing the late races at the FG and the holly pik-6 so I'm watching some football.
I just checked the Aqueduct 4th race payouts out on equibase and if those are indeed correct there needs to be some sort of investigation. That exacta is just horrendous, and the trifecta is laughable. Can anyone explain this to me coherently?

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbQ...RN=4&STYLE=EQB

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

it seems mike there are a few 123 tri and ext box players..

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

it seems mike there are a few 123 tri and ext box players..

LOL!!!
I realize that a few guys do that, but this is wild!!!!
If I had played that race and caught that tri, I'd be absolutely insane!!!
Thats gotta be one of the worst payouts I ever saw at a major thoroughbred track with large pools.
Looks like something you would see where the announcer says "they're off and pacing and on the outside the 2-5 shot favorite makes a break!!!"

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You know I was thinking the same thing. The only thing I can think of is the exacta and tri was 2-3-1, and I know a few people that box 1,2,3 every race. Even so, it still makes very little sense.

You think enough guys do that a number at a track with pools that size in a ten horse field could pay that?
This smells incredibly bad.

[GPK]

even more distrubing was it was an 11 horse field...not like it was a 6-7 horse field...

Havent seen the PP's, but how does Jerkens/Coa get away at 10-1?

[ArlJim78]

I'm PO'd cause I had the two on top of 1 and 9 for exacta and tri, so the 60:1 3 horse killed all that.

The payoff on the tri does seem low. My only theory is that since the race was absent a big favorite, most tri bettors had spread out much more than normal.

Or

It was something fishy!

The price on the Jerkens/Coa horse was a surprise, The works jumped off of the page.

[SniperSB23]

1,2,3 tri box strikes again in the 6th.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

1,2,3 tri box strikes again in the 6th.

i can just hear the chatter at OTB's across the land, "I'm playing 1,2,3 they're coming in all over today"

[GPK]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i can just hear the chatter at OTB's across the land, "I'm playing 1,2,3 they're coming in all over today"

Dems my numbas...Dems my numbas!!!

[The Bid]

"The numbers always repeat themselves" thats my favorite. "That number just ran at Meadows, I knew it was coming at Delta"

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by GPK

Dems my numbas...Dems my numbas!!!

THEY WANT ME TO HAVE THAT ONE, TWO, THREE, THEY WANT TO ME HAVE THOSE NUMBERS!!!

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by The Bid

"The numbers always repeat themselves" thats my favorite. "That number just ran at Meadows, I knew it was coming at Delta"

"Play longshots man! They're coming in everywhere"

[blackthroatedwind]

The 1-2-3 factor is very big but also all three horses were first time starters. The tri was in line with the exacta but the exacta was probably less than half of what it " should " have paid.

There are odd payoffs all the time. If it makes people feel better I will find out if any unusual betting patterns existed. I doubt it.

[alysheba4]

yeah oracle, just a house Q would have paid 631 bucks...... that tri should be 4 to 5 dimes

[MISTERGEE]

For What Its Worth I Was At Calder Today Where A Guy Said He Was A Friend Of The 3's Trainer. He Said He Liked Him And To Use Him. Now Why He Was 60-1 I Cant Figure Out But For Example The Friend Hit The Quinella And Exacta And Went Nuts When He Saw The Lousy Payoff. In Case You Are Wondering I Cashed Nothing Because He Told Us All This After The Race!! He Is No Friend Of Mine But Maybe This Helps Explain Payoffs. Maybe Many Other Friends Keyed Him In Q's And Pers.

Another reason to stay out of exotics.

Pool size unknown, odds of winning combination thus payout unknown. We have beat this to death. They must have had the exacta payouts before they left the gate though...

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

For What Its Worth I Was At Calder Today Where A Guy Said He Was A Friend Of The 3's Trainer. He Said He Liked Him And To Use Him. Now Why He Was 60-1 I Cant Figure Out But For Example The Friend Hit The Quinella And Exacta And Went Nuts When He Saw The Lousy Payoff. In Case You Are Wondering I Cashed Nothing Because He Told Us All This After The Race!! He Is No Friend Of Mine But Maybe This Helps Explain Payoffs. Maybe Many Other Friends Keyed Him In Q's And Pers.

At least you know a horse is 60-1 to win... even if you use that horse in exotics, it is not the same pool so you dont know what you are going to win.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

For What Its Worth I Was At Calder Today Where A Guy Said He Was A Friend Of The 3's Trainer. He Said He Liked Him And To Use Him. Now Why He Was 60-1 I Cant Figure Out But For Example The Friend Hit The Quinella And Exacta And Went Nuts When He Saw The Lousy Payoff. In Case You Are Wondering I Cashed Nothing Because He Told Us All This After The Race!! He Is No Friend Of Mine But Maybe This Helps Explain Payoffs. Maybe Many Other Friends Keyed Him In Q's And Pers.

I am educatedly dubious about this post.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Another reason to stay out of exotics.

Pool size unknown, odds of winning combination thus payout unknown. We have beat this to death. They must have had the exacta payouts before they left the gate though...

completely false, the only ones that are impossible to figure out are pick threes/fours/sixs until the last leg when they show the payoffs. You have FULL access to exacta/quinella/DD will pays...Matter of fact, I know alot of heavy gamblers that look to these pools for advice sometimes, where people are trying to hide funds, especially in the DD's

[blackthroatedwind]

There's a lot of " completely false " stuff, with more than a sprinkling of paranoia, running rampant in this thread.