Daytime Promise

[blackthroatedwind]

Daytime Promise, the victim of the new millenium's most mysterious ride on January 11 by Ramon Dominguez, returns in today's 3rd at Aqueduct. While she can win, and will probably even be favored, it is a MUCH tougher spot than last time, with Samsincharge loose on the lead, and Love Locket off a tough trip. Both the afformentioned horses, and A True Pussycat, are much better than anyone Daytime Promise faced last time.

I for one look forward to the posts after Daytime Promise loses today insinuating that the result shows Ramon did NOT ride her poorly last time. Those posts will not be correct.

[paisjpq]

who's on her today? not Ramon I hope

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

who's on her today? not Ramon I hope

Bad rides are always rewarded in this game....as long as your agent brings donuts to the barn.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Bad rides are always rewarded in this game....as long as your agent brings donuts to the barn.

something to file away for later...donuts as peace offering...thanks

If Ramon got through the hole last time, he would have been hailed as hero. He is far and away the best rider in New York, and is a perpetual example of good judgement and smarts on a horse. He rode that mare perfectly last time and was unlucky to have been beaten. It is impossible to criticize him for his judgement in that instance.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Fearless Leader

If Ramon got through the hole last time, he would have been hailed as hero. He is far and away the best rider in New York, and is a perpetual example of good judgement and smarts on a horse. He rode that mare perfectly last time and was unlucky to have been beaten. It is impossible to criticize him for his judgement in that instance.

As fine a post as I have read on the internet in years. A person as adept as you should be working in this industry.

[CapperZeke]

Originally Posted by Fearless Leader

If Ramon got through the hole last time, he would have been hailed as hero. He is far and away the best rider in New York, and is a perpetual example of good judgement and smarts on a horse. He rode that mare perfectly last time and was unlucky to have been beaten. It is impossible to criticize him for his judgement in that instance.

I guess your wrong. Here are Ramon's quotes:

“I’m just glad to be back on her after I gave her such an awful ride last time,” Dominguez said. “We had a great trip up to the quarter pole. I don’t know what I was thinking when I went inside. I couldn’t get a clear run through the stretch. If she runs to her last two races, she’s the best horse in here.”

[Thoroughbred Fan]

Originally Posted by Fearless Leader

If Ramon got through the hole last time, he would have been hailed as hero. He is far and away the best rider in New York, and is a perpetual example of good judgement and smarts on a horse. He rode that mare perfectly last time and was unlucky to have been beaten. It is impossible to criticize him for his judgement in that instance.

I guess it is good judgement that makes you go inside in a five horse race when you have a horse who is atleast a couple lengths the best in the race. And it must be the smarts on a horse that cost him his 10% that race.

Good work on the analysis! Ramon is the best rider in Maryland/Delaware....not NY.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

As fine a post as I have read on the internet in years. A person as adept as you should be working in this industry.

Do you think I could have a future?

[blackthroatedwind]

Me thinks Feerless Leader was being facetious.

[blackthroatedwind]

That was as oddly a run race as you will ever see. I would hope the stewards are asking Pablo Fragoso about his ride. Did the trainer of Samsincharge or the rider of a True Pussycat give him his instructions?

Daytime Promise certainly had no chance the way the race was run. Actually, nobody did save the winner.

See, there is no reason to criticize Ramon Dominguez. Just another example of a brilliant rider perfectly judging the pace and having his mount in a prime position to finish third.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That was as oddly a run race as you will ever see. I would hope the stewards are asking Pablo Fragoso about his ride. Did the trainer of Samsincharge or the rider of a True Pussycat give him his instructions?

Daytime Promise certainly had no chance the way the race was run. Actually, nobody did save the winner.

so, since you know I can't watch...what happened?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

so, since you know I can't watch...what happened?

Samsincharge, who was the clear speed, easily made the lead and inside into the first turn, however, the 1 and 4 loomed up outside as Fragoso slowed it down. Instead of maintaining the lead, Fragoso for some unknown reason abdicated on the turn and took back to third or fourth, despite a 25 plus opening quarter ( and subsequent 50 plus half ). A True Pussycate, who had been granted the lead, obviously was able to cruise to victory.

Daytime Promise, who has no speed, made a quasi-menacing move from last into the stretch, but had no finish. I guess the lesson to be learned is to win the gifts they give you.

Oh, and to be highly suspicious of what went on during the running of the race. The stewards would be remiss to not at least ask Mr. Fragoso what was going through his mind early in that race.

[paisjpq]

interesting. thanks...

[CapperZeke]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Samsincharge, who was the clear speed, easily made the lead and inside into the first turn, however, the 1 and 4 loomed up outside as Fragoso slowed it down. Instead of maintaining the lead, Fragoso for some unknown reason abdicated on the turn and took back to third or fourth, despite a 25 plus opening quarter ( and subsequent 50 plus half ). A True Pussycate, who had been granted the lead, obviously was able to cruise to victory.

Daytime Promise, who has no speed, made a quasi-menacing move from last into the stretch, but had no finish. I guess the lesson to be learned is to win the gifts they give you.

Oh, and to be highly suspicious of what went on during the running of the race. The stewards would be remiss to not at least ask Mr. Fragoso what was going through his mind early in that race.

Andy,

Do you think Mr. Luzzi should also have been closer to that pedistrian pace? Love Locket has done her best running near the pace.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by CapperZeke

Andy,

Do you think Mr. Luzzi should also have been closer to that pedistrian pace? Love Locket has done her best running near the pace.

Obviously I do, and should she come back and run even a respectable race I would really wonder what was going on, but the way she ran I would have to think her career is over. And, I say that having bet her.

However, considering the shenanigans in that race, nothing would surprise me.

[Gander]

Anyone make any money on this race?

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Samsincharge, who was the clear speed, easily made the lead and inside into the first turn, however, the 1 and 4 loomed up outside as Fragoso slowed it down.

While Samsincharge made the lead, it wasn't easy as she was pumped fairly hard to get to the front before the first turn. The 1 and the 4 then turned it on and passed her. The jockey relaxed and decided not to go with them: Would you've prefered that he pushed to maintain the lead?
She then sat 3rd inside until midturn and couldn't stay with the top 4.

The jockey didn't really ask her from early stretch to the wire.

Seems to me, if she went, she definitely loses and Daytime Promise (very nice, sharp, wide but PREMATURE move on the turn) wins. So she sits a decent trip and still loses. Which kind of leads me to conclude that she wasn't much today.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

The ride on Jose in Laurel's 1st race today---makes that Daytime Promise ride in the loss to Game Card, look like the smartest ride of the year.

Laurel's 1st race was a five furlong starter allowance race with a $19K purse. The 1/9 favorite, who had run a 106 Beyer last time out, was facing three badly overmatched rivals in a scratch-fest.

The 1/9 favorite, who had superior early speed, broke to a clear lead and was inexplicably taken under a firm hold in attempt to be rated on the lead!

Meanwhile, in a rare stroke of brilliance, Oliver Castillo guns a horse up to challenge the 1/9 favorite. He's outside of him and riding the ears off his mount, while the rider of Jose is rating him on the lead.

Off the far-turn, Jose wants to drift out---this Kobiskie nitwit is doing everything humany possible to keep him straight...he can't....he carries out the eventual 2nd place finisher--WHOM he let in the race in the first place---enough so to rightfully warrent a DQ. He proceeds to run off in the late stages and is first under the wire.

It was an absolute comedy to watch! If this rider is ever again on a 1/9 favorite with superior early speed, in a 4 horse field, going five furlongs---I highly doubt he will try 'rating while on the lead' tactics again. Sometimes they never learn though.