Beyer on the newest wise guy

I was at gulfstream a couple of days the last week or two and was kinda dumbfounded by a longshot which paid alot of coin. The trainer had never raced a horse in 2006/7 and his name started and ended with a vowel. The jockey also drew a blank with me, as did his stats. I drew my conclusions and said to myself, " oh , well " another putover at gulfstream. I didn't dwell on it and had pretty much forgotten about it until I just happened upon an Andy Beyer column on the very same subject, from Feb. 6th at the DRF. Apparently Andy just couldn't help but find out what gives with both the trainer and the stable. An amusing story awaits ..........

http://www.drf.com/drfNewsArticle.do...6&subs=0&arc=0

[blackthroatedwind]

I begged him not to write that story.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I begged him not to write that story.

for what reason, if I may ask?

Think if may have a detrimental effect on racing in some way?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by T3B

for what reason, if I may ask?

Think if may have a detrimental effect on racing in some way?

Only a detrimental effect on how many horseplayers now know about them!

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Kasept

No Kev.. A detrimental effect on how many now know about them!

that was the first thought that popped in my mind...the longer they are a secret, they better for those that follow in great detail.


and can we delete this whole thread???

[The Indomitable DrugS]

He's even worse than that wiseguy putover artist Fred Seitz!

[Independent George]

I'll have a collision with Collision in tomorrow's 8th.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Filthy damn unraced-maiden races. The absolute sewer portion of the sport.

[randallscott35]

Manning pulled one of these a few years ago. Not 30-1, but I remember something like this....Maybe it was the same year Gil had trainers sawing horses legs off.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Manning pulled one of these a few years ago. Not 30-1, but I remember something like this....Maybe it was the same year Gil had trainers sawing horses legs off.

That was that Grand horse that won the Pennsylvania Derby and was sold to Godolphin.

These guys won with TWO firsters and another claimer putover.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That was that Grand horse that won the Pennsylvania Derby and was sold to Godolphin.

These guys won with TWO firsters and another claimer putover.

That's right. Of course at the time, you didn't know it was a world beater....Doubtful this new guys horses will be bought by the Arabs.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Grande Hombre....won his debut at GP by 4 lengths, at 14/1 odds for Manning--in very fast time....just about everything behind him came back to win their next start.

For a trivia, name the 4th place finisher in that MSW race?

Hint: he reeled off 5 straight wins, including the Dwyer and Jim Dandy after that maiden loss

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Grande Hombre....won his debut at GP by 4 lengths, at 14/1 odds for Manning--in very fast time....just about everything behind him came back to win their next start.

For a trivia, name the 4th place finisher in that MSW race?

Hint: he reeled off 5 straight wins, including the Dwyer and Jim Dandy after that maiden loss

Strong Hope?

[blackthroatedwind]

Strong Hope.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Joe What?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

correct on Strong Hope.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He's even worse than that wiseguy putover artist Fred Seitz!

I love Fred Seitz! May Night! Hard luck filly..

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I love Fred Seitz! May Night! Hard luck filly..

Lets not speak of May Night, got ZERO trip last night and ran an unbelievable 4th or 5th, and would have won the race with a hole, Gomez had the most horse I have ever seen a single jockey have in that race on the final turn.....She was in front by 4 lengths about 8 jumps after the wire.....

[Cannon Shell]

I respect Andy Beyer but this story is almost implausable. There are so many gaps in the story....they learned to put over 1 st timers in Puerto Rico and Ocala? How does one trainer train for another under a stable name? Etc....

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by merasmag

gotta go write this down, not much here now anyways-lata gatas

Can't be lata e nuff.