Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Stakes Archive
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-01-2015, 10:50 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,280
Default 7/2-4 (LRC): Bertrando; Los Alamitos Derby (G2)

THURS 7th (5:13) Bertrando S.

1 Mile | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 1 Spirit Rules Puglisi I Aguirre Paul G 121 L 9-2
2 2 China Prince Nakatani C S Dollase Craig 119 L 12-1
3 3 Rousing Sermon Garcia M Hollendorfer Jerry 121 L 12-1
4 4 Magic Mark Van Dyke D Ellis Ronald W 119 L 15-1
5 5 Old Man Lake Pereira T J Becerra Rafael 119 L 15-1
6 6 Ambitious Brew Smith M E Jones Martin F 119 L 5-1
7 7 Soi Phet Desormeaux K J Powell Leonard 119 L 7-2
8 8 Solid Wager Perez F H Miller Peter 119 L 15-1
9 9 Raised a Secret Talamo J Glatt Mark 119 L 6-1
10 10 Alert Bay Baze T C Wright Blaine 121 L 3-1

$1 Exacta / $1 Trifecta / $1 Superfecta (.10 Min.) / $2 Double
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-01-2015, 10:51 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,280
Default

SAT 8th (5:43) Los Alamitos Derby (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $350,000

1 Follow Me Crev Quinonez A 122 L
2 Gimme Da Lute Garcia M 122 L
3 Pain and Misery Prat F 122 L
4 Kentuckian Smith M E 122 L
5 Prospect Park Baze T C 122 L
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-04-2015, 09:00 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,280
Default

So I guess that clamoring for a Pharoah-Kentuckian matchup might not be so forthcoming?
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-04-2015, 09:32 PM
blackthroatedwind blackthroatedwind is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 9,935
Default

I can't wait until American Pharoah hooks up with Kentuckian.

Who's with me??
__________________
Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-04-2015, 09:36 PM
Kitan Kitan is offline
Gulfstream Park
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Other side of the globe
Posts: 1,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind View Post
I can't wait until American Pharoah hooks up with Kentuckian.

Who's with me??
That's an unfair matchup. A whole country versus a single state???
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-05-2015, 01:12 AM
Indian Charlie's Avatar
Indian Charlie Indian Charlie is offline
Goodwood
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 8,708
Default

Wow, I may have been wrong a rare time when I'm really high on a horse. Then again, who knows what happened. Lute was always moving better than kentuckian, leaving me bewildered.

I must really suck. The last two horses I was super high on coming off second career starts are currently the first two ranked horses in the world.

Surely Tonalist will overtake them both.

Maybe they might bring one of the all time best horses back, commentator.

Andy, you are an incredibly negative person.

Of course, I realize you are joking around and that I'm over reacting to your bubbly sense of humor. Rest assured, I am totally messing around too!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-06-2015, 09:05 AM
RolloTomasi's Avatar
RolloTomasi RolloTomasi is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,612
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept View Post
So I guess that clamoring for a Pharoah-Kentuckian matchup might not be so forthcoming?
I'll take a Competitive Edge-Kentuckian matchup instead.

However, I'll have to clear some space on my schedule if I want to see the last quarter mile.

Gimme Da Lute is a lot better than he showed in KY and MD, and probably will do best at 7f in the long run so hopefully Bob Baffert makes a calculated move and shoots for the King's Bishop next. Otherwise we'll just have to wait for the Malibu.

Meanwhile, the next flashy CA horse to run the internet gauntlet might be Look Twice, who looked like a seasoned professional in his debut last month.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-06-2015, 09:52 AM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,280
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RolloTomasi View Post
I'll take a Competitive Edge-Kentuckian matchup instead.

However, I'll have to clear some space on my schedule if I want to see the last quarter mile.

Gimme Da Lute is a lot better than he showed in KY and MD, and probably will do best at 7f in the long run so hopefully Bob Baffert makes a calculated move and shoots for the King's Bishop next. Otherwise we'll just have to wait for the Malibu.

Meanwhile, the next flashy CA horse to run the internet gauntlet might be Look Twice, who looked like a seasoned professional in his debut last month.
Thanks Rollo.. Hadn't noticed Look Twice (Carla Gaines) much in that 6f debut.

As an aside, rough Eastern swing for the Cali contingent this weekend with Gaines, O'Neill, Eurton and Baltas all going home without major checks.
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-06-2015, 10:09 AM
NTamm1215 NTamm1215 is offline
Havre de Grace
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,629
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept View Post
Thanks Rollo.. Hadn't noticed Look Twice (Carla Gaines) much in that 6f debut.

As an aside, rough Eastern swing for the Cali contingent this weekend with Gaines, O'Neill, Eurton and Baltas all going home without major checks.
Carla Gaines has shipped 5 horses out of CA over the last 5 years and is a perfect 5-5. They've all been beaten double digits, including Bolo twice now.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-06-2015, 11:06 AM
RolloTomasi's Avatar
RolloTomasi RolloTomasi is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,612
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept View Post
As an aside, rough Eastern swing for the Cali contingent this weekend with Gaines, O'Neill, Eurton and Baltas all going home without major checks.
At no point did Bejarano allow Bolo to run, not even as he was challenged on all sides around the far turn. Obviously, he felt that something was amiss. Nevertheless, tanking in Belmont Derby was always inevitable considering Bolo's connections did everything possible to derail his career during the winter. Santa Anita needs to write a $500,000 3yo turf race in February or March so we don't have to watch these nice 3yo turf horses get chewed up on the Derby trail.

Sharla Rae was 99-1 or should have been. Brice Blanc did Spanish Queen no favors, not that she was beating Lady Eli or the Euros anyways.

Ashleyluvssugar was a sitting duck following Shining Copper with no cover. Then again, he was probably one bad effort away from running for a claiming tag back earlier this year. The fact that Finnegans Wake, a perennial also-ran back east at 3 and 4, went to CA and immediately dominated the turf division was all anyone needed to red pen anything silly enough to ship out of CA. Crucero, a horse who only about 70 days ago broke his maiden for a $20k tag, won a 5-horse San Juan Capistrano at Santa Anita on closing day. Why on earth Ashleyluvssugar, a Cal-bred no less, shipped all the way to NJ to face multiple G1 winners is beyond me.

But hey, at least we have Hard Aces.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-06-2015, 11:34 AM
freddymo freddymo is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,091
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept View Post
So I guess that clamoring for a Pharoah-Kentuckian matchup might not be so forthcoming?
That colt will be on the "How do I get some track cred" on my resume to stand next year path for the rest of 2015. Maybe something like the Penn derby or some other G3 in the Midwest.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-06-2015, 11:37 AM
freddymo freddymo is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,091
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind View Post
I can't wait until American Pharoah hooks up with Kentuckian.

Who's with me??
Yep Kentuckian 2nd choice in the BC Classic.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-06-2015, 12:44 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RolloTomasi View Post
At no point did Bejarano allow Bolo to run, not even as he was challenged on all sides around the far turn. Obviously, he felt that something was amiss. Nevertheless, tanking in Belmont Derby was always inevitable considering Bolo's connections did everything possible to derail his career during the winter. Santa Anita needs to write a $500,000 3yo turf race in February or March so we don't have to watch these nice 3yo turf horses get chewed up on the Derby trail.

Sharla Rae was 99-1 or should have been. Brice Blanc did Spanish Queen no favors, not that she was beating Lady Eli or the Euros anyways.

Ashleyluvssugar was a sitting duck following Shining Copper with no cover. Then again, he was probably one bad effort away from running for a claiming tag back earlier this year. The fact that Finnegans Wake, a perennial also-ran back east at 3 and 4, went to CA and immediately dominated the turf division was all anyone needed to red pen anything silly enough to ship out of CA. Crucero, a horse who only about 70 days ago broke his maiden for a $20k tag, won a 5-horse San Juan Capistrano at Santa Anita on closing day. Why on earth Ashleyluvssugar, a Cal-bred no less, shipped all the way to NJ to face multiple G1 winners is beyond me.

But hey, at least we have Hard Aces.
If I had a good horse the last person I would give it to would be Gaines.
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-06-2015, 03:05 PM
letswastemoney's Avatar
letswastemoney letswastemoney is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Turlock, CA
Posts: 2,561
Default

Kentuckian will make a top-class sprinter. But, his dam side is poor for routes and it showed.

Forest Music faded in a similar fashion in the 2003 BC Juvenile Fillies.
__________________
Lady and The Track
Twitter
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-07-2015, 04:24 PM
Sightseek's Avatar
Sightseek Sightseek is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,024
Default

Spanish Queen had an awful trip. I thought Kentuckian looked a little short behind when he jogged back to be unsaddled.
__________________
Tod Marks Photo - Daybreak over Oklahoma
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.