8/29 (SAR): 146th Travers Day; 6 Graded Stake Undercard

Upstart hasnt surpassed his figure (Funny Cide Stakes) as a two year old yet. He is sitting on a big performance. I can see him as the upset and his recent works look wickedly good. Tall task to beat AP but I say he can get it done.

[10 pnt move up]

Triple Crown winner, biggest race of the summer, and no way to watch it? Really.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

Upstart hasnt surpassed his figure (Funny Cide Stakes) as a two year old yet. He is sitting on a big performance. I can see him as the upset and his recent works look wickedly good. Tall task to beat AP but I say he can get it done.

Tip of the hat if you hit. I think Upstart is the most overrated 3-year-old in the crop. The New York people tend to hold onto their horses like Grimm death.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Left Bank

What I find disturbing is the entries by 4 very reputable trainers. Maybe this would explain their low win percentages at Saratoga.

Makes perfect sense. Great purse...and you never know.
ap looks great.

[Danzig]

See. Too bad

[Left Bank]

Well, it's called the graveyard of favorites for a reason.

[Kitan]

And that's how you run a horse race. Think you have the "better" horse then ride him as such and don't let the "champ" get it easy as per usual.

[Port Conway Lane]

Class connections for the winner and runnerup.

[10 pnt move up]

retired it seems

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

retired it seems

Heat of the moment. If it doesn't change in 48 hours then it's just a bad decision to retire on one loss with no attempt at redemption.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

retired it seems

I hope it was just disappointment talking.
i thought after the Haskell, and baffert saying the horse was a bit tired after shipping back, that they'd not run here.
But zayat wanted to.
I hope the horse comes back well from the effort today, they can let him catch a breath, and then train him up to the bcc.
Then again, they might have got to the bottom of him. He's had a good campaign. Can't say they did anything wrong, you run a horse when he's doing well. But you also have to give him time when he shows the needs it.
Here's hoping he makes keeneland, and one more run.

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by Pants II

Heat of the moment. If it doesn't change in 48 hours then it's just a bad decision to retire on one loss with no attempt at redemption.

I tend to agree with Coach.
I don't believe the connections had any pre-Travers discussions about the plans for a "what if we lose" scenario. They should, and probably will, let the disappointment and reality of this outcome settle and then decide on the options.

[Pants II]

Justin deleted that tweet, btw.

They aren't going out like that.