Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > Contests > Call to the Post
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-03-2018, 11:35 PM
DonGuido's Avatar
DonGuido DonGuido is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 3,940
Default Venue April 7???

My first thought was Keenland but then there's Santa Anita with the SA Derby and Oaks??? Hmmmm. I'm mixed, but slightly leaning towards SA when I think of the impact races on Derby Day!

Thoughts? I have not looked at the entries in any of the key races yet?
__________________
The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse’s ears – Arabian Proverb
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-04-2018, 08:08 AM
JolyB JolyB is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 3,742
Default

Don, I don't envy you the task of choosing. Each of three venues has a lot of merit. The number of top stakes races on Saturday takes us close to horseplayer heaven.

I agree with you that most eyes will be on the Bolt/Justify matchup in the SA Derby, but the Blue Grass at KEE will let us ponder whether Good Magic might be as good on Derby Day as he was in the BC Juvie. Even the Wood at AQ will bring us a couple of Derby entrants, although it doesn't look as strong a prep as the other two.

A similar issue exists for preps for the KY Oaks. I'm sure some entrants will emerge from the SA Oaks, but the same could be said for the Ashland, and possibly even for the Gazelle.

An overflow field for the Blue Grass was drawn yesterday. I think that both the SA and the AQ cards will be drawn later today.

I know that it can create a lot of issues, including difficulties on scoring, but a case could be made for a blend of the top stakes races from Santa Anita, Keeneland and Aqueduct. That could let us work on top preps for both the Derby and the Oaks, and I didn't even mention the Carter and the Madison for older horses.

Just a couple of thoughts for you to consider. I'm glad that I finished dead last on Saturday and don't have to make a tough decision. I'll be perfectly happy with whatever choice you make. With so many good races you just can't go wrong.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-04-2018, 10:19 AM
DonGuido's Avatar
DonGuido DonGuido is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 3,940
Default

Hmmmm, a lot of food for thought served up by The Professor. This student will just have to digest the plate and then go with what my wife Patty will propose, and after similar thoughts from JB she'll go with "whatever you decide Don". I'll have it by the end of today.
__________________
The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse’s ears – Arabian Proverb
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-04-2018, 11:43 AM
Real Quiet's Avatar
Real Quiet Real Quiet is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 2,718
Default

As an added note the 10 day forecast for both Keenland and Aqueduct show a good chance of rain and or snow in the 1 to 3 inch range. Keenland also forecasts rain for Friday.
__________________
"The more I learn about humans, the more I love horses"
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-04-2018, 11:46 AM
RUFFIAN's Avatar
RUFFIAN RUFFIAN is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: BOULDER, COLORADO
Posts: 2,969
Default Mewsings

Based upon the weather report for both New York rain and snow
Kentucky rain and snow

Here are the options to Mews upon

1) ALL 3 YEAR OLD STAKES (Only) OF SA---AQU---KY

*** 2) ALL SA WITH BONUS WOOD, BLUEGRASS
I think this idea may be the better option based upon the weather reports

I spoke with the racing office at Keeneland yesterday and he said even with the snow
They would not cancel with the exception of lightning

PS:
I could live without the WOOD
But Not Without The Bluegrass
__________________
🐯 MAY THE PURRRR BE WITH YOU 🐆


WEB SITE LINK => www.RUFFIAN333.com

Last edited by RUFFIAN : 04-04-2018 at 12:40 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-04-2018, 01:50 PM
DonGuido's Avatar
DonGuido DonGuido is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 3,940
Default

If we are just doing a couple from two other tracks besides a main one, that gives us three tracks to track (done it before). But I'd rather do all stakes on three tracks as noted:

OPTION 1 - (10 races all stakes)
Aqua:
1. Carter
2. Gazelle
3. Wood

Keene:
4. Ashland
5. Commonwealth
6. Madison
7. Shakertown
8. Bulegrass

SA:
9. SA Derby
10. SA Oaks

or . . .

OPTION 2 - (12 races)
Keene: Races 1-10
SA Derby
SA Oaks

Comments? Plenilune, please chime in.
__________________
The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse’s ears – Arabian Proverb
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-04-2018, 05:05 PM
RUFFIAN's Avatar
RUFFIAN RUFFIAN is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: BOULDER, COLORADO
Posts: 2,969
Default

Considering the weather forecast for Kentucky...
I would prefer ALL Santa Anita with a bonus of the BLUEGRASS

Rather than all of Kentucky plus the Santa Anita Derby and oaks

JMHO

But if the choice is ONLY what Don posted....

I would opt for the second choice of Keeneland
and the Santa Anita Derby and Oaks

I think the weather in New York is going to be the worst of all
And I don't care as much for the races there
__________________
🐯 MAY THE PURRRR BE WITH YOU 🐆


WEB SITE LINK => www.RUFFIAN333.com
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-04-2018, 05:16 PM
Plenilune Plenilune is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 5,128
Default

I like option 1.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DonGuido View Post
If we are just doing a couple from two other tracks besides a main one, that gives us three tracks to track (done it before). But I'd rather do all stakes on three tracks as noted:

OPTION 1 - (10 races all stakes)
Aqua:
1. Carter
2. Gazelle
3. Wood

Keene:
4. Ashland
5. Commonwealth
6. Madison
7. Shakertown
8. Bulegrass

SA:
9. SA Derby
10. SA Oaks

or . . .

OPTION 2 - (12 races)
Keene: Races 1-10
SA Derby
SA Oaks

Comments? Plenilune, please chime in.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-04-2018, 07:17 PM
JolyB JolyB is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 3,742
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Plenilune View Post
I like option 1.
Me too.
JB
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-04-2018, 10:50 PM
DonGuido's Avatar
DonGuido DonGuido is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 3,940
Default

Option 1 it is, since I was leaning that way also but didn't want it to drive Plen crazy when scoring. Nothing against you Ruffian for sure but I'll post the official threads tomorrow. Thanks folks for chiming in!!!

BTW, the race order for us could be interesting but I'll try and make is simple.
__________________
The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse’s ears – Arabian Proverb
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-05-2018, 12:00 PM
RUFFIAN's Avatar
RUFFIAN RUFFIAN is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: BOULDER, COLORADO
Posts: 2,969
Default AQU

Aqua:
1. Carter ===> R8: 4:44 PM EDT

2. Gazelle===> R6: *** 3:38 PM EDT ***

3. Wood
__________________
🐯 MAY THE PURRRR BE WITH YOU 🐆


WEB SITE LINK => www.RUFFIAN333.com
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.