Weekend Stakes Beyers: Rich Strike 101

[Kasept]

CD Kentucky Derby (G1): Rich Strike 101 (Keen Ice) E. Reed/S. Leon
CD Turf Classic S (G1): Santin 101 (Distorted Humor) B. Walsh/T. Gaffalione
CD Churchill Downs S. (G1): Jackie's Warrior 105 (Maclean's Music) S. Asmussen/J. Rosario
CD Derby City Distaff S. (G1): Obligatory 96 (Curlin) W. Mott/J. Ortiz
CD American Turf S. (G2): Stolen Base 90 (Bodemeister) M. Maker/F. Prat
CD Distaff Turf Mile S (G2): Speak of the Devil-FR 98 (Wootton Bassett-GB) C. Brown/F. Prat
CD Pat Day Mile S. (G2): Jack Christopher 98 (Munnings) C. Brown/J. Ortiz
CD Knicks Go S: Three Technique 91 (Mr Speaker) J. Cook/R. Bejarano

CD Kentucky Oaks (G1): Secret Oath 94 (Arrogate) D. Lukas/L. Saez
CD La Troienne S. (G1): Pauline's Pearl 94 (Tapit) S. Asmussen/J. Rosario
CD Eight Belles S. (G2): Matareya 93 (Pioneerof the Nile) B. Cox/F. Prat
CD Twin Spires T/Sprint S. (G2): Arrest Me Red 99 (Pioneerof the Nile) W. Ward/I. Ortiz
CD Edgewood S. (G2): New Year's Eve 90 (Kitten's Joy) B. Walsh/L. Saez
CD Alysheba S. (G2): Olympiad 103 (Speightstown) W. Mott/J. Alvarado
CD Modesty S. (G3): Bleecker Street 92 (Quality Road) C. Brown/F. Prat
CD 3yo-F OC/N1X (8.5f): Juju's Map 87 (Liam's Map) B. Cox/F. Geroux

CD Unbridled Sidney S: Toby's Heart 90 (Jack Milton) B. Lynch/J. Ortiz
CD Kentucky Juvenile S: Tom's Regret 65 (Tom's Tribute) J. Periban/T. Baze
CD Opening Verse S: Gray's Fable 93 (Gio Ponti) R. Attfield/L. Saez
CD William Walker S: Big Invasion 90 (Declaration of War) C. Clement/J. Rosario
CD St. Matthews S: Gunner 94 (Into Mischief) J. Ortiz/R. Gutierrez
CD Isaac Murphy Marathon S: Lone Rock 90 (Majestic Warrior) R. Diodoro/R. Vazquez

OP Natural State Breeders' S: The Mary Rose 93 (Macho Uno) J. Ortiz/E. Esquivel
OP AR Breeders' Ch. S: Souixper Charger 82 (Portobello Road) J. Prather/L. Quinonez

BEL Ruffian S (G2): Search Results 96 (Flatter) C. Brown/I. Ortiz
BEL Fort Marcy S (G2): L'Imperator-FR 99 (Holy Roman Emperor-IRE) C. Brown/E. Cancel
BEL Westchester S (G3): Cody's Wish 104 (Curlin) W. Mott/J. Alvarado
BEL Sheepshead Bay S (G2): Virginia Joy-GER 100 (Soldier Hollow-GB) C. Brown/T. McCarthy
BEL Flat Out S: First Constitution-CHI 98 (Constitution) T. Pletcher/J. Lezcano

WO Whimsical S (G3): Our Secret Agent 92 (Secret Circle) M. Casse/K. Kimura

MTH Serena's Song S: Miss Leslie 85 (Paynter) C. Gonzalez/A. Cruz

BTP Daryl E. Parker Memorial Tall Stack S: Tantrum 64 (Speightster) T. Hamm/M. Franklin

EVD EVD Distaff S: Winning Romance 75 (First Samurai) W. Calhoun/D. Parker
EVD EVD Classic S: Who Took the Money 89 (Street Boss) W. Calhoun/D. Parker

WRD Highland Ice S: Dame Plata 87 (Cross Traffic) F. Bravo/A. Pusac
WRD Wilma Mankiller S: Distorted Flash 73 (Flashback) J. Offolter/G. Mora

SA Senorita S (G3): Island of Love-IRE 81 (Kodiac-GB) P. D'Amato/J. Hernandez
SA Angels Flight S: Elm Drive 83 (Mohaymen) P. D'Amato/R. Gonzalez

SRP Jack Cole S: No Pasa Nada 63 (Attila's Storm) A. Valdez/A. Medellin
SRP C.O. Ken Kendrick Memorial S: Nostrangrtotherain (Shame On Charlie) C. Lambert/M. Perez

TUP Open Spring Futurity: One in Vermillion 64 (Army Mule) E. Martinez/H. Hernandez

GP English Channel S: California Frolic 76 (California Chrome) A. De La Cerda/E. Perez
GP Honey Ryder S: Ocean Safari 82 (Temple City) G. Zerpa/H. Berrios
GP Monroe S: Grand Ave Girl 85 (Runhappy) D. Fawkes/E. Jaramillo

HAW Third Chance S: Dancin At Midnight 81 (Bandbox) S. Manley/E. Baird

TDN Michael F. Rowland Memorial H: Direct Deceit 68 (Twinspired) N. Rivera/A. Diaz

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CD 3+ MSW (6f): Strobe 92 (Into Mischief) B. Cox/F. Geroux
CD 3yo MSW (1m): Congressman 91 (Constitution) T. Pletcher/I. Ortiz

[Conrad]

Love to hear Beyer's explanation for the 9pt difference between the CD Stakes and Derby City Distaff, both at 7f, with a raw time difference of .22 seconds.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Kasept

CD 3+ MSW (6f): Strobe 92 (Into Mischief) B. Cox/F. Geroux
CD 3yo MSW (1m): Congressman 91 (Constitution) T. Pletcher/I. Ortiz

A lot of people might have missed it but that was some debut by Strobe.

[moses]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

A lot of people might have missed it but that was some debut by Strobe.

Yes it was. I foolishly bet against.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Conrad

Love to hear Beyer's explanation for the 9pt difference between the CD Stakes and Derby City Distaff, both at 7f, with a raw time difference of .22 seconds.

Pace right?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Pace right?

Yes. I actually spoke to him about it.

[Conrad]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Pace right?

Derby City Distaff: 22.36-44.95-109.75-122.17
CD Stakes: 22.76-45.50-109.50-121.95

Jackies Warrior was slower than normal early. I know he usually goes faster than that, but he didn't on Saturday.

He ran a slower than normal final time because he ran a slower than normal 1/4m and 1/2m.
The time is the time.
Giving him a higher number because he ran slower early is silly.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Conrad

Derby City Distaff: 22.36-44.95-109.75-122.17
CD Stakes: 22.76-45.50-109.50-121.95

Jackies Warrior was slower than normal early. I know he usually goes faster than that, but he didn't on Saturday.

He ran a slower than normal final time because he ran a slower than normal 1/4m and 1/2m.
The time is the time.
Giving him a higher number because he ran slower early is silly.

Beyer spoke on Steve's show and they broke it out, Listen to the archives I get Beyer's thoughts. I get it but I don't get the need to make it such a fast race

[Konk]

Did Beyer also "adjust" the Derby winner's figure for greatly benefitting from that blistering fast (absurd) pace?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Konk

Did Beyer also "adjust" the Derby winner's figure for greatly benefitting from that blistering fast (absurd) pace?

Most people would be embarrassed to post on a horse racing message board and let everyone know how poorly they understand racing. I admire your honesty.

[Dahoss]

No one has mentioned it (at least that I have seen) but that was a strong comeback race for Jack Christopher. I'd love to get a future on him for the Travers.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

No one has mentioned it (at least that I have seen) but that was a strong comeback race for Jack Christopher. I'd love to get a future on him for the Travers.

I know at least one person who won't book that bet.

[moses]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

No one has mentioned it (at least that I have seen) but that was a strong comeback race for Jack Christopher. I'd love to get a future on him for the Travers.

I was thinking…why don’t some of these other races have futures bets? I don’t bet a lot but I enjoy the derby futures. Why not preakness and Belmont and travers and breeders cup? I’m sure there is a market for them.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by moses

I was thinking…why don’t some of these other races have futures bets? I don’t bet a lot but I enjoy the derby futures. Why not preakness and Belmont and travers and breeders cup? I’m sure there is a market for them.

I was in Las Vegas in late June of 2019. I tried to bet futures on two horses in the Travers ( Looking at Bikinis, who had a maiden win in October and hadn't run since, he was running in a day or two, and Highest Honors, who had either a maiden win or a NW1X as well ) and asked in a few places and nobody wanted to get involved.

Oddly, they both actually ran in the Travers ( and finished nowhere ).

[Konk]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Most people would be embarrassed to post on a horse racing message board and let everyone know how poorly they understand racing. I admire your honesty.

Still unable to recognize sarcasm other than your own.
Ok, I'll be your "Anthony" today.
Enjoy yourself. You seem to need it.