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Old 03-02-2008, 02:26 PM
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Default Hey Byrn

Is this a colt that needs to stay in his conditions or is he ready to make a run at the top 3yr olds? The way he has looked in his condition is awsome. Will the quality and sretch-out make him look more ordinary? Very rare for a owner and trainer letting a colt show his quality before jumping into the fire.
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Old 03-02-2008, 02:34 PM
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i dont think it matters, he has defeated no one, and i doubt he will go on to be anything
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Old 03-02-2008, 02:34 PM
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Sounds right DaHoss. Though, Godolphin still has time to buy him and ship him to Dubai.
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Old 03-02-2008, 02:36 PM
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i overhyped him, i thought he was a nice horse after his last, i guess not
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Old 03-02-2008, 02:37 PM
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i overhyped him, i thought he was a nice horse after his last, i guess not

Beats CAPS LOCK I guess.
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Old 03-02-2008, 02:38 PM
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with pg and kyrim back, it finally feels like the derby trail is officially open for 2008.
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Old 03-02-2008, 02:39 PM
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with pg and kyrim back, it finally feels like the derby trail is officially open for 2008.
i can feel my brain shrinking already.
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Old 03-02-2008, 02:40 PM
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Anyone want to try and guess who his trainer will be for his next race, because I doubt it's going to be Ed Plesa. I'll go with Pletcher or Asmussen.
Is he this years Curlin and what is the starting bid?
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Old 03-02-2008, 03:01 PM
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Tough to say for sure. He might be okay, as he has been as impressive in Florida as anyone this year.
He certainly looked good today. I wonder if he can tackle that extra furlong...err...643 feet?
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Old 03-02-2008, 03:09 PM
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Tough to say for sure. He might be okay, as he has been as impressive in Florida as anyone this year.
Jay,

Interesting colt.. $30k as a yearling (Put It Back's average was $23k off the $5k fee), and then $160,000 six months later at the March OBS last year.. Plesa gave him four months off after that summer campaign (shins?), and here he is a different horse. VERY similar development curve to Smooth Air, though Smooth Air looks to be best suited one turning.

Had run a (neg) -1 on TG to correspond to the 97 Beyer, and will be anxious to see where this comes back. Will absolutely have the vultures circling... But Mrs. Oxenberg may not be of a mind to sell.




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Old 03-02-2008, 08:08 PM
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The horses he beat in the NW1X earlier in the meet were probably better than what Pyro beat up on in the Risen Star. I'm not knocking Pyro; just those who mistakenly think Hey Byrn isn't a legit Derby contender, at this point.

Interesting how Hey Byrn was 3-5 in the betting around 12 minutes to post, right where he figured to be......then amazingly came up to 2-1! You just don't see that often were a horse who looks like they will destroy a field will go up from a legit 3-5 to 2-1.
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:10 PM
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The horses he beat in the NW1X earlier in the meet were probably better than what Pyro beat up on in the Risen Star. I'm not knocking Pyro; just those who mistakenly think Hey Byrn isn't a legit Derby contender, at this point.

Interesting how Hey Byrn was 3-5 in the betting around 12 minutes to post, right where he figured to be......then amazingly came up to 2-1! You just don't see that often were a horse who looks like they will destroy a field will go up from a legit 3-5 to 2-1.

Not sure how the first part of your post is true, but whatever, however it was Alaazo that was 3:5 early and drifted to 9:5. Hey Byrn wasn't lower than 2:1 and drifted down to get there.
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:19 PM
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Not sure how the first part of your post is true, but whatever, however it was Alaazo that was 3:5 early and drifted to 9:5. Hey Byrn wasn't lower than 2:1 and drifted down to get there.
Are you sure about that? I swear Brisnet had the 3 (Hey Byrn) at 3-5. Either that or my vision is really going (very possible).
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:21 PM
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Not sure how the first part of your post is true, but whatever, however it was Alaazo that was 3:5 early and drifted to 9:5. Hey Byrn wasn't lower than 2:1 and drifted down to get there.
That was early Facebook action on Alaazo, I assume. I saw Hey Bryn pretty close up today. Hard to believe he's the one.
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:24 PM
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That was early Facebook action on Alaazo, I assume. I saw Hey Bryn pretty close up today. Hard to believe he's the one.
As for the Risen Star field comparison, I don't think Z Fortune would've been on the board in this GP race today.

So what is wrong with how Hey Byrn looked? Performance on the track is the only thing that counts.
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:26 PM
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Regardless of anyones opinion, he has earned his way to "THE DERBY TRAIL".
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:37 PM
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Regardless of anyones opinion, he has earned his way to "THE DERBY TRAIL".
That's very true. If all's well, he's at least one of the favorites for the Florida Derby.

Personally, I have a lot of horses to root for as I made a field bet in pool 1.

I'd love to see Plesa have a Derby runner. Hopefully he keeps the colt but who knows.

To me, it's still very early. And to me the Risen Star was oddly run. Can't knock the winner but that race doesn't often turn out especially important.
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Old 03-02-2008, 09:22 PM
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As for the Risen Star field comparison, I don't think Z Fortune would've been on the board in this GP race today.

So what is wrong with how Hey Byrn looked? Performance on the track is the only thing that counts.
I can't imagine who you found to be so tough in that allowance race to consider it better than the Risen Star also-rans. Sleuse? Bordeaux Bandit? Alaazo?

Don't get me wrong, Hey Byrn ran a nice race and looked good doing it but count me among those who wants me to see him beat a horse not named Bordeaux Bandit.

The Risen Star field might not have been great but it is not even comparable to that allowance field today. Hell, Blackberry Road and/or Visionaire would have been heavily bet in Gulfstream's 3rd today and Z Fortune would have probably been 3-5.

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Old 03-02-2008, 10:17 PM
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As for the Risen Star field comparison, I don't think Z Fortune would've been on the board in this GP race today.
Why is everyone so hellbent on bashing the Risen Star?
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Why is everyone so hellbent on bashing the Risen Star?
Mostly because it was run like a tractor pull.
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