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Old 04-21-2008, 09:10 AM
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Denis of Cork just posted what will likely be the day's most talked about work at the Downs ripping 5f in 1:00.0 and galloping out the final quarter in a shade over :22.0.
Under Calvin Borel, the David Carroll trainee went easily for a half mile (48.0) without urging before being asked for the sharp finish. Borel had difficulty pulling the colt up.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:13 AM
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:26 AM
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Denis of Cork just posted what will likely be the day's most talked about work at the Downs ripping 5f in 1:00.0 and galloping out the final quarter in a shade over :22.0.

Under Calvin Borel, the David Carroll trainee went easily for a half mile (48.0) without urging before being asked for the sharp finish. Borel had difficulty pulling the colt up.
Thanks for this. The final works at Churchill have become a crucial part of my Derby handicapping.

Did you see it, Steve?
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:33 AM
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Galloped out the extra two panels in .22.0???Wow
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:41 AM
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Thanks for this. The final works at Churchill have become a crucial part of my Derby handicapping.

Did you see it, Steve?
Yes. Was at the barn before and after and on the frontside for the spin. Silly me thought that many would be interested in hearing about it firsthand minutes after it was completed... But yet another DTer with a bizarre hard-on for a trainer seems to indicate there isn't interest and I needn't bother to report anything from here.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:44 AM
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Galloped out the extra two panels in .22.0???Wow
Wrote that wrong.. Final quarter on the gallop out. There may be a fraction on that too. I didn't hear the clocker clearly except for the '22' part.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:46 AM
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Steve,
Any other (possible) derby horses working /on the grounds @ C.D. ?
Thanks for the report.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:48 AM
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Yes. Was at the barn before and after and on the frontside for the spin. Silly me thought that many would be interested in hearing about it firsthand minutes after it was completed... But yet another DTer with a bizarre hard-on for a trainer seems to indicate there isn't interest and I needn't bother to report anything from here.
You need to report this stuff here, at least the smart players will be recognizing the information as noteworthy....
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:54 AM
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Steve, real quick, and let me start this comment with I know little about works, except for the ones I used to see on TVG when they have The Works

Was Borel really after him in the stretch, like with the whip or did he just shove him / show him the whip and he took off?
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:57 AM
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You need to report this stuff here, at least the smart players will be recognizing the information as noteworthy....
And Coach, this isn't calling you dumb or not a smart player....
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:10 AM
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Steve, real quick, and let me start this comment with I know little about works, except for the ones I used to see on TVG when they have The Works

Was Borel really after him in the stretch, like with the whip or did he just shove him / show him the whip and he took off?
Whip was in his back pocket.
I was at the finish line and only heard Calvin smooching at him.
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maybe I'm wrong but I think he wasn't knocking the workout report but the chances of DENIS OF CORK.
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:59 AM
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Denis of Cork just posted what will likely be the day's most talked about work at the Downs ripping 5f in 1:00.0 and galloping out the final quarter in a shade over :22.0.
Under Calvin Borel, the David Carroll trainee went easily for a half mile (48.0) without urging before being asked for the sharp finish. Borel had difficulty pulling the colt up.
Awesome update, keep em coming!
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:14 AM
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And Coach, this isn't calling you dumb or not a smart player....
I really don't care if it is. I'll call anyone who wagers on this horse derby day an idiot.
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:15 AM
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maybe I'm wrong but I think he wasn't knocking the workout report but the chances of DENIS OF CORK.
I was also getting under Steve's skin over his man crush of Carroll.
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I really don't care if it is. I'll call anyone who wagers on this horse derby day an idiot.
Idiot #1 right here
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:20 AM
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I really don't care if it is. I'll call anyone who wagers on this horse derby day an idiot.
I'll admit that I am including him in my tri and exactas.

I am keying Colonel John in all three spots with 9 other horses, total cost of $216. Right now my five horses for the $10 exacta box I play are.

Colonel John
Denis of Cork
Pyro
Z Fortune
Have no idea on the fifth
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:22 AM
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Really like your 5th choice..that's mine right now too.

Steve, love the works info and as someone else said, key to Derby pick.

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I'll admit that I am including him in my tri and exactas.

I am keying Colonel John in all three spots with 9 other horses, total cost of $216. Right now my five horses for the $10 exacta box I play are.

Colonel John
Denis of Cork
Pyro
Z Fortune
Have no idea on the fifth
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:30 AM
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Any insight on the overly fast "stretch her legs out" Eight Belles work at Keeneland yesterday?? And if I am reading under the lines correctly, the plan is to enter her in both races, and they will scratch from one or the other depending on the KY Derby post potentially keeping someone out of the Derby?? Is that what's going on here?
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