Dutrow should be suspended AGAIN

[Quiet Chris]

Is he kidding me with this statement. This is a guy who has ganged up on top horses himself.

Dutrow was also asked if he was concerned that other riders in the Belmont would “gang up” on Big Brown. He was reminded that some people accused riders of doing that to Smarty Jones when he was defeated by Birdstone in the 2004 Belmont Stakes.

“I don’t believe anyone would do something like that,” he said. “If they did, they might get assassinated after the race. I can’t imagine they would do that."

[TheSpyder]

Last I checked we live in the USA where you are allowed to say what you want...even if it's crazy stuff like that.

Spuder

[Quiet Chris]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Last I checked we live in the USA where you are allowed to say what you want...even if it's crazy stuff like that.

Spuder

You don't have to break laws to be suspended.

Jockin'

[hockey2315]

Give him a break - I doubt he even knows what assassinated means - too many syllables.

[hi_im_god]

no worries. i called the hyperbole police. they said they'll break him in so many pieces no one would ever put him back together.

[mes5107]

There are going to be a lot of people putting lots of money on Big Brown. Some may not take kindly to other horses/jocks running a race where winning is not their primary goal. I believe that's what Dutrow is saying. I don't think he's threatening death by his own hand to people that "gang up" on Big Brown.

[Round Pen]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

Is he kidding me with this statement. This is a guy who has ganged up on top horses himself.

Dutrow was also asked if he was concerned that other riders in the Belmont would “gang up” on Big Brown. He was reminded that some people accused riders of doing that to Smarty Jones when he was defeated by Birdstone in the 2004 Belmont Stakes.

“I don’t believe anyone would do something like that,” he said. “If they did, they might get assassinated after the race. I can’t imagine they would do that."

I see you have made 22 post now I was thinking that 15 or 20 of those need to be Suspended.

[blackthroatedwind]

Keep this one in mind when we are voting for Worst Thread of 2008.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Keep this one in mind when we are voting for Worst Thread of 2008.

It's going to have to wilt in the stretch to lose this title.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

It's going to have to wilt in the stretch to lose this title.

I'll try and keep it going.....




Dutrow criticizes Servis, Elliott

During Tuesday's conference call, Dutrow was asked if he feared someone trying to ride the Belmont just to beat Big Brown. It has been suggested by some observers that jockeys Jerry Bailey and Alex Solis moved their horses early in an attempt to force Smarty Jones and Elliott into a premature move.

Dutrow said he didn't believe that to be the case and criticized trainer John Servis and Elliott for the way they prepared Smarty Jones for the Belmont. Dutrow erroneously said that Smarty Jones had his last Belmont work over a sloppy sealed track at Philadelphia Park. The track was labeled fast for that move.

Dutrow, however, said Elliott should have taken Smarty Jones in hand late in the Preakness rather than win by 11 1/2 lengths.

"He did not need to win the way he did in the Preakness in order to get to the Belmont the right way," Dutrow said. "If you noticed our horse, Kent may have asked him for a little run turning for home, which he did, but at the eighth pole he grabbed a hold and he knew we still had another race to go through. I think that the connections of Smarty Jones just were not smart in order to get their job done for the Belmont."

The criticisms meant little to Servis.

"He's under a lot of pressure and a lot of times we say things we don't mean," Servis said. "I'm taking it with a grain of salt."

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

The criticisms meant little to Servis.

"He's under a lot of pressure and a lot of times we say things we don't mean," Servis said. "I'm taking it with a grain of salt."

Gonna need a lot of grains to get over the fact that he rode an idiot who got his horse beat in the BEL.

Oh, and I didn't need to quote any of the 'experts' on this.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Gonna need a lot of grains to get over the fact that he rode an idiot who got his horse beat in the BEL.

Oh, and I didn't need to quote any of the 'experts' on this.

Fatman...your post makes it look like I said these things.

Retract at once or you will hear from my legal counsel.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

Is he kidding me with this statement. This is a guy who has ganged up on top horses himself.

Dutrow was also asked if he was concerned that other riders in the Belmont would “gang up” on Big Brown. He was reminded that some people accused riders of doing that to Smarty Jones when he was defeated by Birdstone in the 2004 Belmont Stakes.

“I don’t believe anyone would do something like that,” he said. “If they did, they might get assassinated after the race. I can’t imagine they would do that."

Settle down now, Babe.

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

I'll try and keep it going.....




Dutrow criticizes Servis, Elliott

During Tuesday's conference call, Dutrow was asked if he feared someone trying to ride the Belmont just to beat Big Brown. It has been suggested by some observers that jockeys Jerry Bailey and Alex Solis moved their horses early in an attempt to force Smarty Jones and Elliott into a premature move.

Dutrow said he didn't believe that to be the case and criticized trainer John Servis and Elliott for the way they prepared Smarty Jones for the Belmont. Dutrow erroneously said that Smarty Jones had his last Belmont work over a sloppy sealed track at Philadelphia Park. The track was labeled fast for that move.

Dutrow, however, said Elliott should have taken Smarty Jones in hand late in the Preakness rather than win by 11 1/2 lengths.

"He did not need to win the way he did in the Preakness in order to get to the Belmont the right way," Dutrow said. "If you noticed our horse, Kent may have asked him for a little run turning for home, which he did, but at the eighth pole he grabbed a hold and he knew we still had another race to go through. I think that the connections of Smarty Jones just were not smart in order to get their job done for the Belmont."

The criticisms meant little to Servis.

"He's under a lot of pressure and a lot of times we say things we don't mean," Servis said. "I'm taking it with a grain of salt."

While Servis/Elliott could be criticized for running off with the Preakness, Elliott did not ride him poorly in the Belmont. Horses went out of their form to push Smarty. They ended up tailing off while Smarty was still fighting in the stretch. I don't think they will do the same with Brown though. I think they were out to beat Smarty because they didn't like this upstart trainer from this small track with a small time jock winning the triple against them. Smarty was an excellent horse who would have been great if he could have over-come that gang-up.

Now if you want to get me started on a jock who I think is highly over-rated and prone to compromising his horse out of an inability to manage his anger, lets talk Sleepy (Kenny D.).

[blackthroatedwind]

Someone let me know when Stewie Elliot doesn't give a bad ride. That's a bigger lock than the sun coming up.

[The Bid]

Hes in the same league as Noberto Arroyo

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Hes in the same league as Noberto Arroyo

Norberto is ten times the rider Elliot is.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Norberto is ten times the rider Elliot is.

What about Rodney Prescott?

[Rupert Pupkin]

I agree with Dutrow 100% about what he said about Smarty Jones. These horses are not machines. You don't want to squeeze the lemon dry. When you have to run 3 times in 5 weeks, you have to leave something in the tank. I've always though that if Stewart Elliot would have geared Smarty Jones down in the Preakness and cruised home by 5 lengths, he would have probably won the Belmont.

The reason I think that Big Brown will win the Belmont is because he wasn't even close to being all out in the Preakness and the race probably didn't take that much out of him. He should be able to come back in 3 weeks and win.