Don't Trash Kent, On Bb's Race Here's Why.......

sdjcom · #1 06-10-2008, 08:57 PM

Hello Handicappers,
Well iv'e sat back a couple of days listening to the young pimple-faced fans who have watch horse-racing for a year and are now experts. you
guys and gals, trashed a rider who has won over 200 million in purse money and is in hall of fame. let's not be naive here, ieah has 50 MILLION!!!!! ON THE LINE with BB. Let me repeat, 50 MILLION !!! on the line with BB. They told Kent not to get this horse hurt if he had any doubt about his run, and
Dutrow has had no say if BB ran in Belmont or not!!! ieah had UPS corporate
people in big tent party and you know how that goes. they told Dutrow to
have BB in this race no matter what. When they talk to Dutrow Saturday you could see in his face tone of voice and body language he knew BB was not right. Kent in his pre-race interview on ABC did not have that bubbly high
pitch voice of excitment, he was reserved and you knew he knew BB wasn't
right. Hell the work-out rider knew this.
Now all the experts on ATR including Steve Byk who i admired
and respect have flip-flopped on this issue. i held on the phone with KC
yesterday put could not get thru to Steve. Steve nor steve Haskin, or John
perrotta said anything about BB might need to be scratch 14 days before race.
Now john said BB was taken out of his work-out routine. Steve
and others on Atr for 2 weeks said everything is a go for BB. now after BB
ran terrible due to no fault of his own, and has a DNF on his record, All these experts are saying BB didn't get his long gallops in and had only 1 meaniful work-out at 5 furlongs. Well hell if you knew this days before race none of them said a damm thing after, 5 million dollars was bet on BB?

the_fat_man · #2 06-10-2008, 09:00 PM

Still need to tweak that program a bit. It's just about at the ****** level as is.

sdjcom · #3 06-10-2008, 09:04 PM

iv'e read some of your posts and your opinion means less than zero to me hoss!!

Danzig · #4 06-10-2008, 09:06 PM

can we trade back for kyrim?

ateamstupid · #5 06-10-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Thanks, but I didn't say anything to you.

He's quite the confused individual.

jcs11204 · #6 06-10-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Thanks, but I didn't say anything to you.

a computer is trying to play you ?

Danzig · #7 06-10-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Thanks, but I didn't say anything to you.

are you his hoss? or is fat man?

Cajungator26 · #8 06-10-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Thanks, but I didn't say anything to you.

Hope you're kidding. 'Hoss' is a common term down here in the South.

Danzig · #9 06-10-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He's quite the confused individual.

what gave that away?

The Indomitable DrugS · #10 06-10-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sdjcom

iv'e read some of your posts and your opinion means less than zero to me hoss!!

Yeah, but the kiddie on the horsey in his avatar sure is cute!

Cajungator26 · #11 06-10-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Whatever, hoss. Wouldn't expect you yankees to understand.

Danzig · #12 06-10-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I thought I was.

he said fat man meant nothing to 'me hoss' so i thought he was using pirate speak and saying YOU (dahoss) had issues with fat mans posts. i'm SURE that's what he meant.

Danzig · #13 06-10-2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yeah, but the kiddie on the horsey in his avatar sure is cute!

no doubt an unbiased opinion from you on that one!

Cajungator26 · #14 06-10-2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

he said fat man meant nothing to 'me hoss' so i thought he was using pirate speak and saying YOU (dahoss) had issues with fat mans posts. i'm SURE that's what he meant.

Not so sure that's a

LOL

Danzig · #15 06-10-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Not so sure that's a

LOL

sdjcom · #16 06-10-2008, 09:40 PM

Sorry i was talking to fat man ,

Rupert Pupkin · #17 06-10-2008, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sdjcom

Hello Handicappers,
Well iv'e sat back a couple of days listening to the young pimple-faced fans who have watch horse-racing for a year and are now experts. you
guys and gals, trashed a rider who has won over 200 million in purse money and is in hall of fame. let's not be naive here, ieah has 50 MILLION!!!!! ON THE LINE with BB. Let me repeat, 50 MILLION !!! on the line with BB. They told Kent not to get this horse hurt if he had any doubt about his run, and
Dutrow has had no say if BB ran in Belmont or not!!! ieah had UPS corporate
people in big tent party and you know how that goes. they told Dutrow to
have BB in this race no matter what. When they talk to Dutrow Saturday you could see in his face tone of voice and body language he knew BB was not right. Kent in his pre-race interview on ABC did not have that bubbly high
pitch voice of excitment, he was reserved and you knew he knew BB wasn't
right. Hell the work-out rider knew this.
Now all the experts on ATR including Steve Byk who i admired
and respect have flip-flopped on this issue. i held on the phone with KC
yesterday put could not get thru to Steve. Steve nor steve Haskin, or John
perrotta said anything about BB might need to be scratch 14 days before race.
Now john said BB was taken out of his work-out routine. Steve
and others on Atr for 2 weeks said everything is a go for BB. now after BB
ran terrible due to no fault of his own, and has a DNF on his record, All these experts are saying BB didn't get his long gallops in and had only 1 meaniful work-out at 5 furlongs. Well hell if you knew this days before race none of them said a damm thing after, 5 million dollars was bet on BB?

It's funny that everybody is still giving you a hard time even though you were the only one on this board that called it right. You were the only one on here that said that they should scratch the horse. I think you were obviously right.

What was funny was that everybody was acting like what you were saying was completely outrageous when you suggested that they should scratch the horse. In reality, that opinion was not a controversial opinion at all. Most trainers that I talked to who saw the picture of the quarter crack said the exact same thing as you. I'm not saying that every trainer thought that they should scratch the horse but there were certainly plenty of trainers that would not have run that horse. I'm not going to criticize the conections for running. They made a judgement call. Hindsight is 20/20. Nobody could guarantee that the horse wouldn't win.

But the point is that your opinion was not crazy and there were plenty of trainers that had the same opinion as you.

Rupert Pupkin · #18 06-10-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Who's giving him a hard time? And "everybody" isn't exactly fair in regards to his previous posts. Everybody hasn't given him a hard time.

I shouldn't have used the word "everybody". It was clearly not "everybody". But if my memory is correct, there were plenty of people giving him a hard time and acting like he was crazy when he suggested that the horse should be scratched.

I may have misinterpreted it. They may have just been teasing him because his post was so hard to read with all the capitals.

Kasept · #19 06-10-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sdjcom

Now all the experts on ATR including Steve Byk who i admired
and respect have flip-flopped on this issue. i held on the phone with KC
yesterday put could not get thru to Steve. Steve nor steve Haskin, or John
perrotta said anything about BB might need to be scratch 14 days before race.

Now john said BB was taken out of his work-out routine. Steve and others on Atr for 2 weeks said everything is a go for BB. now after BB ran terrible due to no fault of his own, and has a DNF on his record, All these experts are saying BB didn't get his long gallops in and had only 1 meaniful work-out at 5 furlongs. Well hell if you knew this days before race none of them said a damm thing after, 5 million dollars was bet on BB?

This is a rather bizarre assertion. I didn't know I had a say in the horse making the start. Big Brown worked out and looked good earlier in the week. The connections were comfortable with where he was and expected a good effort despite the hoof and lost training. I suggested Friday he didn't look nearly as good in his gallop as he had earlier in the week. What else exactly am I supposed to offer up?

The horse running or not running is not my, Steve Haskin's, John Perrotta's, or any other member of the media's responsibility. I reached out Monday for John Nerud to get the foremost opinion available on what may have occured. More expert than mine.. Rupert's.. or yours. And I'll take Nerud's interpretation as the cause of the poor performance. Big Brown's raw talent couldn't overcome the other issues, and that was what the connections and most that thought he would win Saturday were counting on and expecting.

Rupert Pupkin · #20 06-10-2008, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

This is a rather bizarre assertion. I didn't know I had a say in the horse making the start. Big Brown worked out and looked good earlier in the week. The connections were comfortable with where he was and expected a good effort despite the hoof and lost training. I suggested Friday he didn't look nearly as good in his gallop as he had earlier in the week. What else exactly am I supposed to offer up?

The horse running or not running is not my, Steve Haskin's, John Perrotta's, or any other member of the media's responsibility. I reached out Monday for John Nerud to get the foremost opinion available on what may have occured. More expert than mine.. Rupert's.. or yours. And I'll take Nerud's interpretation as the cause of the poor performance. Big Brown's raw talent couldn't overcome the other issues, and that was what the connections and most that thought he would win Saturday were counting on and expecting.

Steve, For the record I was in no way endorsing sdjcom's criticism of you. I was just saying that sdjcom's suggetion that the horse should not have run was not a crazy suggestion. It was a reasonable point of view.