10/25 (BC): Turf; Mile; Turf Sprint (Final)

[Kasept]

2nd (10:50) Breeders' Cup Turf Sprint

About 6 1/2 Furlongs (Downhill turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Heros Reward Castellano J J 126 L
2 Fleeting Spirit (IRE) Murtagh J P 120 L
3 True to Tradition Carmouche K 126 L
4 Only Answer (GB) Peslier O 123
5 Salute the Count Coa E M 126 L
6 Storm Treasure Bridgmohan S X 126 L
7 Rouse the Cat Prado E S 126 L
8 Diabolical Dettori L 126 L
9 Desert Code Migliore R 126 L
10 California Flag Talamo J 126 L
11 Idiot Proof Gomez G K 126 L
12 One Union Espinoza V 126 L
13 Get Funky Valdivia J Jr 126 L
14 Mr. Nightlinger Theriot H J II 126 L



4th (12:15) Breeders' Cup Mile (G1)

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $2,000,000

1 Shakis (IRE) Garcia Alan 126 L
2 Kip Deville Velasquez C 126 L
3 Precious Kitten Bejarano R 123 L
4 Goldikova (IRE) Peslier O 119
5 Daytona (IRE) Solis A 126 L
6 Awesome Gem Baze T C 126 L
7 U S Ranger Murtagh J P 126 L
8 Bold Chieftain Baze R A 126 L
9 War Monger Desormeaux K J 126 L
10 Thorn Song Albarado R J 126 L
11 Whatsthescript (IRE) Gomez G K 126 L


8th (3:00) Emirates Airlines Breeders' Cup Turf (G1)

1 1/2 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $3,000,000

1 Better Talk Now Dominguez R A 126 L
2 Red Rocks (IRE) Dettori L 126 L
3 Grand Couturier (GB) Garcia Alan 126 L
4 Soldier of Fortune (IRE) Murtagh J P 126
5 Winchester Smullen P J 121 L
6 Dancing Forever Douglas R R 126 L
7 Red Rock Canyon (IRE) O'Donoghue Colm 126
8 Spring House Velazquez J R 126 L
9 Conduit (IRE) Moore R L 121
10 Out of Control (BRZ) Gomez G K 126 L
11 Eagle Mountain (GB) Shea K 126

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Mile:

Einstein*
Tybalt
Hyperbaric
Proudinsky*
War Wonger*

War Wonger? Ridden by Elmer Fudd??

[cakes44]

What has Winchester done since the Secretariat?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Turf Sprint:

Mr. Nightlinger
Idiot Proof
Get Funky
Just Rushing
Wollemi Pine
Heros Reward
Salute the Count
Natural Seven
Kingship
California Flag
One Union
Smart Enough
True to Tradition
Lightmyfirebaby*
Wake Up Maggie
Ten Meropa

Wow, one of those horses will be a Breeders Cup winner in a few weeks.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Turf:
Archipenko*

Slight setback, out of the Champion Stakes, on to Hong Kong and then Dubai.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Mile:
Good Ba Ba

Staying put in HK...

[brockguy]

Winchester is on course for the Turf I believe, hasnt raced since Arlington...

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by Kasept
Turf:
Archipenko*

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Slight setback, out of the Champion Stakes, on to Hong Kong and then Dubai.

damn it! I love this guy... got a terrible trip in the million and thought he would be perfect for this race.

[brockguy]

US Ranger is possible for Coolmore and he is almost as bad as Antonius Pius

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by brockguy

US Ranger is possible for Coolmore and he is almost as bad as Antonius Pius

I loved him!

Conduit to the Turf, Fleeting Spirit to the Turf Sprint...

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by smuthg

Originally Posted by Kasept
Turf:
Archipenko*



damn it! I love this guy... got a terrible trip in the million and thought he would be perfect for this race.

According to what I've read, he's doing well so at least there's that.

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Mile:

Lord Admiral - C. O'Brien
Kip Deville – Dutrow
Goldikova - Head (1)
Whatsthescript – Sadler
Precious Kitten – Frankel
Thorn Song – Romans
Bold Chieftain – Morey
War Monger – Mott
Daytona – Hendricks
Shakis – McLaughlin
Raven’s Pass – Gosden (1)
US Ranger - O'Brien
Ventura - Frankel (2)
Awesome Gem (2)

I really think a key factor to consider is that Kiaran actually went to Sheik Hamdan and encouraged him to supplement. He is no fool around a horses' potential. Shakis is really moving well at the moment and will be running his last race before a wonderful retirement at Shadwell. If he can get a fairly firm turf track, he'll be coming in the stretch.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

I really think a key factor to consider is that Kiaran actually went to Sheik Hamdan and encouraged him to supplement. He is no fool around a horses' potential. Shakis is really moving well at the moment and will be running his last race before a wonderful retirement at Shadwell. If he can get a fairly firm turf track, he'll be coming in the stretch.

Are you sure about this? . . Personally I was completely unimpressed by his last two. . .

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Are you sure about this? . . Personally I was completely unimpressed by his last two. . .

Unimpressed! He won the BBaruck with a strong turn of foot blowing by the field in the stretch. He was coming against brown and Proudinski on a very soft surface he usually hates at Monmouth. But even if you weren't impressed. Don't dismiss him outright. Mclaughlin seldom makes bad decisions about his horses. He's entered 4 horses in the past two years in the Breeders Cup and won two. And he would have won a third if Henny didn't spin his wheels at Churchill after he gave the rest of the horses their usual 1/2 length advantage. And a forth if Monmouth's Turf course wasn't a bog for Lear's Princess. He doesn't run them if he doesn't think they can win. And Shakis is fit and ready to run. Worth a look that's for sure.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

Unimpressed! He won the BBaruck with a strong turn of foot blowing by the field in the stretch. He was coming against brown and Proudinski on a very soft surface he usually hates at Monmouth. But even if you weren't impressed. Don't dismiss him outright. Mclaughlin seldom makes bad decisions about his horses. He's entered 4 horses in the past two years in the Breeders Cup and won two. And he would have won a third if Henny didn't spin his wheels at Churchill after he gave the rest of the horses their usual 1/2 length advantage. And a forth if Monmouth's Turf course wasn't a bog for Lear's Princess. He doesn't run them if he doesn't think they can win. And Shakis is fit and ready to run. Worth a look that's for sure.

Umm he also ran at Keeneland. . . His last two were the Monmouth Stakes - where he had no excuse in the stretch - and the Shadwell Turf Mile - I can't remember his performance there but it wasn't great. AND I'm pretty sure he ran there because of the owners - so KMc doesn't always choose his horse's spots. His Baruch was nice - but also at his favorite track and not at a mile. Shakis will almost certainly be an underlay. . .

Hoss is right about the rest of that garbage. . .

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

and the Shadwell Turf Mile - I can't remember his performance there but it wasn't great. AND I'm pretty sure he ran there because of the owners - so KMc doesn't always choose his horse's spots. .

He just missed behind Thorn Song.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Kasept

He just missed behind Thorn Song.

Thanks Steve. . . but I'm still not crazy about his chances. . . There will be better horses in the BC than Thorn Song.

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Are you serious with most of this? First off, Lear's Princess ran in the Distaff last year, not on the grass. Henny hughes would have won the sprint in '06? That's a pretty far stretch I think.

I meant the dirt course. And, a far stretch for Henny? Did you see that horse that year? He dominated every field he was in. Went off as the favorite in the Breeder's Cup. He lost the race on the break. But my point was he wasn't running the horse without having a good sense of his capability. He enters to win. I don't think he would go out on a limb with Shiek unless he had a very good idea that Shakis was rounding into form.

[CSC]

Goldikova's european form is very strong.

[GPK]

Anyone know much about Eagle Mountain?