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Old 06-25-2010, 01:09 PM
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Default When does the $1,000,000 a day start at MTH?

Just noticed that there's maybe $450,000 or so in purses at Monmouth today. $850,000 Saturday. $764,000 Sunday.

Have they had a day with a $1,000,000 in purses yet?
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:23 PM
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Have they had a day with a $1,000,000 in purses yet?
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:32 PM
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Wont Haskell day be like 3 million?
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[ million in prize money is an about number] offer not good in
cali or n.j

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Old 06-25-2010, 01:37 PM
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Sat they will be far in excess of 1 million since the 2 stakes are worth 1 million alone.
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:39 PM
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2.15 mill on Haskell day
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:54 PM
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Just noticed that there's maybe $450,000 or so in purses at Monmouth today. $850,000 Saturday. $764,000 Sunday.

Have they had a day with a $1,000,000 in purses yet?
124 horses entered at Monmouth in 12 races...

68 horses entered at Belmont in 9 races...

enough said..
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124 horses entered at Monmouth in 12 races...

68 horses entered at Belmont in 9 races...

enough said..
Ok.. That's nice. What's that have to do with my question? I capped MTH today and noticed that the purses were $400k+ which made me look at Sat/Sun.

Where's the $1,000,000 a day?
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As a bettor, I don't care... I want large fields and Monmouth is providing that to me. Belmont offers very shorts fields.

You seem to be the only one complaining about it...
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As a bettor, I don't care... I want large fields and Monmouth is providing that to me. Belmont offers very shorts fields.

You seem to be the only one complaining about it...
Did I miss a post somewhere? Where was the complaint?
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For what it's worth, I like fields in the mid-range . 7 or 8 .
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As a bettor, I don't care... I want large fields and Monmouth is providing that to me. Belmont offers very shorts fields.

You seem to be the only one complaining about it...
Who the phuck is complaining? I'm asking about the purses because thouigh you may not know it, the winner's share has been greatly decreased from the usual 60% under the system that rewards participation and pays $1,500 to all runners. And if they in fact are going to load up purses for Haskell Week only, then the $1,000,000/day portion of the equation is something of a come on that is short-arming owners that win.
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I"ll venture to guess that the 1MM per day is over the 50 day meet. 50MM over 50 days is the way it was marketed, not 1MM per day. I could be wrong.

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"Monmouth will offer $50 million in purses over 50 days. That averages out to a cool $1 million a day for the core meet, which runs through Labor Day, shooting Monmouth to the top of the industry in purse money over Saratoga and Del Mar, the traditional summer leaders. "
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Who the phuck is complaining? I'm asking about the purses because thouigh you may not know it, the winner's share has been greatly decreased from the usual 60% under the system that rewards participation and pays $1,500 to all runners. And if they in fact are going to load up purses for Haskell Week only, then the $1,000,000/day portion of the equation is something of a come on that is short-arming owners that win.
Are these owners complaining?
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Did I miss a post somewhere? Where was the complaint?

Post #1 and #12 in this thread...

And

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...3&postcount=12
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Old 06-25-2010, 02:21 PM
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Who the phuck is complaining? I'm asking about the purses because thouigh you may not know it, the winner's share has been greatly decreased from the usual 60% under the system that rewards participation and pays $1,500 to all runners. And if they in fact are going to load up purses for Haskell Week only, then the $1,000,000/day portion of the equation is something of a come on that is short-arming owners that win.
As far as the part about watering down the winner's share, I am pretty sure the reason for the $1500 to all runners is a way of rewarding the local owners/trainers who are "out-stocked" by the super trainers shipping in. All things considered, I think it's a great idea.

Short-arming owners that win??? you are kidding, right? $70-$80k for maidens, NW1X, and NW2X isn't short arming anyone even if $9000 comes off the top to the also-rans
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Are these owners complaining?
I don't know. They may not complain until they get their statements because they may not realize that the winner's share is lower. It doesn't really matter with the inflated ALW's and MSW's because the increased purse should offset the lower percentage for the winner. But the mid-lower range purses aren't that inflated, and frankly, running versus 10-11 for 50% of $25k isn't that attractive versus running for 60% of say $18k versus 6-7.

My question had nothing to do with the handle portion of the MTH meet. The glaringingly small total purse forthe day caught my attention. I had thought they were giving away a minimum of $700k-$800k daily.
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Short-arming owners that win??? you are kidding, right? $70-$80k for maidens, NW1X, and NW2X isn't short arming anyone even if $9000 comes off the top to the also-rans
Addressed that above. It's not about the ALW/MSW races. It's the cheap races that are running today (only 2 ALW's) that caught my attention..
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124 horses entered at Monmouth in 12 races...

68 horses entered at Belmont in 9 races...

enough said..
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As a bettor, I don't care... I want large fields and Monmouth is providing that to me. Belmont offers very shorts fields.

You seem to be the only one complaining about it...
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Are these owners complaining?
not a very convincing arguement you have presented. the topic has nothing to do with belmont.
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Post #1 and #12 in this thread...

And

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...3&postcount=12
Wow....

I asked a question that was well worth asking. There isn't a 'complaint' wrapped in Post 1 or 12 or anywhere else.
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