2/12-13 (SA): Bob Lewis, Santa Maria (G2's); La Canada (G2)

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Bench Points came off the shelf and ran down Da Ruler yesterday. Now 4 for 4, two Cal-bred stakes wins. Needs to stretch out, but damside reasonably strong for it, so not a retread of Brother Derek (another by Benchmark).

Weren't all of Brother Derek's stakes wins around two turns?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Tapizar is just not that good. Take a better look at the horses he lost to in the maiden races, then look at who he beat in his wins. I never got this horse. The big Cali horses both lost today, God I hope Smash is ready to run. Last I checked 4 works. He could really be the one out West.

"Never got" Tapizar? He was at the top of the division for all of about 2 weeks.

Both the Sham and the Robert Lewis were glorified first condition allowance races. If the fairly consistent Riveting Reason is any sort of barometer, you can pretty much right off the horses out here.

Jaycito is probably the last hope. I like the 7f comeback start (if Baffert holds to it). He may come up to the Derby slightly under-the-radar the way Real Quiet did in '98.

[Indian Charlie]

I guess people are coming back to reality with Blind Luck, no?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I guess people are coming back to reality with Blind Luck, no?

She is pretty good. No? How much you want to knock her for yesterday? Her first off the bench, in a 4 horse boat raise devoid of pace. Three of the 4 were decent but Blind Luck should be better in her next. Dont you think?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I guess people are coming back to reality with Blind Luck, no?

Two losses in races over a track that's notoriously difficult on closers, the 2nd of which came in a race with no pace suddenly makes her accomplishments last year non-existent?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I guess people are coming back to reality with Blind Luck, no?

I think she is better going longer (not too many options I know), larger fields would certainly help too. The folks that bought her will likely never come back to reality, bargain of a lifetime.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

"Never got" Tapizar? He was at the top of the division for all of about 2 weeks.

Both the Sham and the Robert Lewis were glorified first condition allowance races. If the fairly consistent Riveting Reason is any sort of barometer, you can pretty much right off the horses out here.

Jaycito is probably the last hope. I like the 7f comeback start (if Baffert holds to it). He may come up to the Derby slightly under-the-radar the way Real Quiet did in '98.

Go check out the top 12. People on this website have been hyping him since the maiden win. The real deal etc... Making future bets on him.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I guess people are coming back to reality with Blind Luck, no?

Shes decent, always has been. Never great.

[Indian Charlie]

I brought up Blind Luck because people were making her out to be among the better 3yo fillies of all time last year.

She is a really solid filly who was in a really awful crop of fillies.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I brought up Blind Luck because people were making her out to be among the better 3yo fillies of all time last year.

She is a really solid filly who was in a really awful crop of fillies.

Probably had more to do with the similarities of the campaign (as compared to the avg modern horse) than her actual ability. Though I am a big supporter still.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I brought up Blind Luck because people were making her out to be among the better 3yo fillies of all time last year.

She is a really solid filly who was in a really awful crop of fillies.

The only thing I did was completely disagree with you when you said she was no better than Octave.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The only thing I did was completely disagree with you when you said she was no better than Octave.

I was not referring to you.

However, she does look to be a lot more like Octave now, right?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I was not referring to you.

However, she does look to be a lot more like Octave now, right?

I don't recall anyone comparing Blind Luck to one of the best 3 year old fillies of all time.

However, when a pretty good filly is allowed to navigate an opening 1/4 in almost 25 seconds uncontested, and a half in almost 49 seconds, in a 4 horse field, on a track that has been producing fast times for weeks now, it's obvious a closer is going to be at a disadvantage. Any closer.