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01-13-2013, 11:43 PM
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Tom Brady
He has yet to win a single Super Bowl with a team where his offense was higher rated than his defense.
In a 52-man game, where virtually about 40 of those 52 men count for A LOT every single game ... I've never understood the importance of a championship as it relates to one man. However, if championships are going to be your top criteria for rating an individual player, Does Brady get credit for winning Super Bowls with 3 different teams whose strong suit was on the defensive side of the ball (Brady never played a single snap of defense in 2001, 2003, or 2004) ? Since this team has transitioned to an offensive team ... he hasn't "won a ring" as the saying goes. Don't get me wrong ... I think he is a great player, But, if you're such a great QB, AND you have the NFL's #2 most stingy defense like he did in 2003, or #1 most stingy defense like he did in 2004 ... do you really have to be that great to win a championship when you don't play defense? For instance, when Ray Lewis won his single Super Bowl, he did it with a defense that was the NFL's most stingy, but his offense was merely 14th in points scored. Ultimately, if "rings" are supposed to be a individual measure and not a team measure ... does Ray Lewis and his one ring with a 14th ranked offense in terms of points and 16th ranked in terms of yards ... trump Brady's 3 "rings" which all came with elite defenses led by long retired stalwarts. 
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01-13-2013, 11:55 PM
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Randy Moss, even in my own opinion, is a below average and deservingly under utilized receiver in the year 2012.
If he wins a Super Bowl with San Fran this year ... does it mean he was a more successful player this year, than he was in a few of his early years in Minny where he played on teams that would have otherwise been 2-14 or 3-13 without him? It was nice to see guys like Crabtree and Vernon Davis giving Moss tributes when they made big plays in Saturday's game. Vernon Davis even gave him a double tribute after one of his long catches, by doing two vintage Moss celebrations after a long catch. However, he doesn't even belong on the football field anymore. Watching him play WR is like how horse players might have felt watching Old Rosebud run in claiming races at age 10 a century ago.
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01-14-2013, 08:25 AM
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winning a super bowl shouldn't be the arbiter of whether one is top-notch or not. if it was, mark rypien would be considered better than dan marino. that's preposterous. people tend to forget that it's a team sport. qb's get tons of attention, whereas many folks can't even name their entire defensive line, or offensive for that matter. it's the same as in hockey, where crosby is 'better' than ovie, because crosby won the cup. yep, all by himself he won that.
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01-14-2013, 04:00 PM
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"If you lose the power to laugh, you lose the power to think" - Clarence Darrow, American lawyer (1857-1938) When you are right, no one remembers;when you are wrong, no one forgets. Thought for today.."No persons are more frequently wrong, than those who will not admit they are wrong" - Francois, Duc de la Rochefoucauld, French moralist (1613-1680)
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01-14-2013, 06:24 PM
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Cause he can't walk anywhere for 6-8 months.........................
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