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Old 10-07-2008, 12:31 PM
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"You act as if there is such a thing as the jewish vote"

That was your statement. Yet i am the idiot? Your implication that the Isreal lobby somehow is only neeocons and Rebublicans is just as stupid. I'm sure they send you the notes of the secret meetings...

I'm sure the clinton years were just miserable for the Isrealis
Again distortion. That is actually a lie chuck. That would make you a LIAR. Typical.

Im sure your white house "informant" gives you all of the ins and outs of the Israel lobby and what goes on. You do "know more than 99% of the people out there of what goes on in the whitehouse".

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Old 10-07-2008, 12:34 PM
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University professors can be insanely biased and without any background on them it is impossible to determine the validity of their arguements.
Here is the resume. Yes, you know more than him too chuck.

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/about/fac...y/stephen-walt
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:35 PM
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Yeah, I get called names left and right by both of you and yet i am doing the attacking. Right from the neo con playbook chuck. Well done.

Don't blame your lack of comprehension on a lack of support and explanation from my part. I can't be blamed for your failures or those of your teachers.

You skew the facts and issues laid out becaue you have no clue on the subject and anyone with a brain (that would preclude antitrust32) knows it. I have laid out the facts and support with opinions with people knowledgable on the subject.

When you have time, perhaps you should have someone read you the articles.
First of all show one occasion in this thread where I called you a name? Secondly dont act like you presented your side when you basically posted articles and called names. Where in this thread do you specifically say what your position is? Other than to disagree with me? And worry about 1945 or 1948? What did I skew? The fact that Harvard has historically taken stances against Isreal? That the policis have basically not wavered? That pseudo-intellectuals like you are never able to see the world for what it is? That blaame must be assigned and secret movements are to blame...
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:39 PM
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Again distortion. That is actually a lie chuck. That would make you a LIAR. Typical.

Im sure your white house "informant" gives you all of the ins and outs of the Israel lobby and what goes on. You do "know more than 99% of the people out there of what goes on in the whitehouse".
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You are weak. You have made that implication. How else would anyone take your statements about the Isreall lobby? How is that a LIE? Again, you just make things personal avoid substance.
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:42 PM
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First of all show one occasion in this thread where I called you a name? Secondly dont act like you presented your side when you basically posted articles and called names. Where in this thread do you specifically say what your position is? Other than to disagree with me? And worry about 1945 or 1948? What did I skew? The fact that Harvard has historically taken stances against Isreal?

That pseudo-intellectuals like you are never able to see the world for what it is? That blaame must be assigned and secret movements are to blame...
You are so biased that you cant even see the folly of your assertions.

This was your first attack which i responded to. You want to enter that world, im happy to. Even in your last post, you call me a "psuedo-intellectual". What does that make you chuck? Are you a psuedo-idiot?

Harvard takes stances against Israel? support the claim. And support that U of Chicago does as well while you are at it. You can't.

You still dont get that the policies of the US toward Israel changed in the sixties.
Why? How? Read what was posted and the articles with them.

If you want to stay ignorant to the subject that is your choice.
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:42 PM
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Here is the resume. Yes, you know more than him too chuck.

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/about/fac...y/stephen-walt
I'm sure George Bush and Sarah Palin have more impressive resumes than you yet you seem to feel smarter than they are?

I did not say the guy isnt smart, just potentially biased. You know like favors one side over another and uses his intellegence to try to distort things? Because you know smart people are all straight shooters?
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:45 PM
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I'm sure George Bush and Sarah Palin have more impressive resumes than you yet you seem to feel smarter than they are?

I did not say the guy isnt smart, just potentially biased. You know like favors one side over another and uses his intellegence to try to distort things? Because you know smart people are all straight shooters?
Nah, chuck, youve got that smart thing cornered.

The funny thing is that you ASSUME and claim bias without reading what was written. Dispute the facts. Prove the bias.

I can't find anything wrong with what was said in th piece. Can you? And if so, specifically what?
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:54 PM
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:55 PM
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Nah, chuck, youve got that smart thing cornered.

The funny thing is that you ASSUME and claim bias without reading what was written. Dispute the facts. Prove the bias.

I can't find anything wrong with what was said in th piece. Can you? And if so, specifically what?
What exactly is your position in this whole deal? You have never actually said anything except indirectly blame neocons and republicans for some changing of policy in the 60's? That and called names and posted articles. There are millions of articles about this subject on both sides and simply posting them is a waste of time unless you point out the fact or statements that you are stressing. Once again, what did i say that was so factual incorrect except for the dates?

And do we really want to go into the history of antisemitism at places like Harvard?
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:01 PM
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What exactly is your position in this whole deal? You have never actually said anything except indirectly blame neocons and republicans for some changing of policy in the 60's? That and called names and posted articles. There are millions of articles about this subject on both sides and simply posting them is a waste of time unless you point out the fact or statements that you are stressing. Once again, what did i say that was so factual incorrect except for the dates?And do we really want to go into the history of antisemitism at places like Harvard?
You stated that our policy has been the same since 1945 (you meant since the beginning of Israel which was in 1948). This is incorrect which i have pointed out many times throughout. The US changed policy significantly in the sixties. Your statement was factually incorrect.

You do realize that the PRESIDENT Of HAVARD is JEWISH
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:03 PM
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I'm getting a dala woody again.



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Old 10-07-2008, 01:06 PM
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I'm getting a dala woody again.



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Some day my love! I am a mortimer fan before all else.
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:07 PM
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The fact that that is all you garnered from this whole discussion was a three year difference in time (as if that is minor) shows how hopelessly stupid and ignorant you are. What should i expect from a lesbian that claims to be a republican?

Keep up the suck up role. everyone needs a place i guess. You certainly have yours.

ALL you have Dala, is name calling... you have no other substance and never have. And people should take you seriously because of that??

And you didnt prove anything different from Cannons arguements. Your WHOLE arguement didnt even make sense! Somehow you claim only Republicans support Isreal, and there is no such thing as a Jewish vote, eventhough according to you the Jewish vote goes to the Repubs. But Cannon was three years off on the formation of Isreal and there goes his whole arguement.

Keep trying. When people have no substance they just resort to name calling.
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:08 PM
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ALL you have Dala, is name calling... you have no other substance and never have. And people should take you seriously because of that??

And you didnt prove anything different from Cannons arguements. Your WHOLE arguement didnt even make sense! Somehow you claim only Republicans support Isreal, and there is no such thing as a Jewish vote, eventhough according to you the Jewish vote goes to the Repubs. But Cannon was three years off on the formation of Isreal and there goes his whole arguement.

Keep trying. When people have no substance they just resort to name calling.
You leave her alone you LESBO!
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:08 PM
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As Barack would say, settle down, settle down people

I'll find something cheery we can all agree on...
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Would not a big cut in economic aid be regarded as a lack of support?
I dont think so. I think we can still be a strong ally to Isreal without having to give them 3 bill a year. But again this is above my pay grade.
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:09 PM
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The Jewish vote goes overwhelmingly to the Democrats (although not so overwhelmingly this year cause of racism and bitter Hillary supporters). But the Jewish vote is hardly significant. It is 2% of the population.
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:12 PM
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ALL you have Dala, is name calling... you have no other substance and never have. And people should take you seriously because of that??

And you didnt prove anything different from Cannons arguements. Your WHOLE arguement didnt even make sense! Somehow you claim only Republicans support Isreal, and there is no such thing as a Jewish vote, eventhough according to you the Jewish vote goes to the Repubs. But Cannon was three years off on the formation of Isreal and there goes his whole arguement.

Keep trying. When people have no substance they just resort to name calling.
You called me names first dear. Look back in the thread. Regardless, I dont want to be mean to you. Im sure you are a really nice person. You cant ****in read, but im sure you are a really nice person.
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:14 PM
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The Jewish vote goes overwhelmingly to the Democrats (although not so overwhelmingly this year cause of racism and bitter Hillary supporters). But the Jewish vote is hardly significant. It is 2% of the population.
Go back in the the thread. I didnt say otherwise. Chuck had no idea about the Israel lobby so he tried to link it to the jewish vote. Antitrust, being nice but hopelessly illiterate, went with what chuck said.
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:15 PM
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You are weak. You have made that implication. How else would anyone take your statements about the Isreall lobby? How is that a LIE? Again, you just make things personal avoid substance.

Pretty much sums Dala up.
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