Borel off Bird for Rachel in Preakness - Page 10

gales0678 · #**181** 05-07-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

I still say, if Chantal was on him in the derby, he would have been 90-1.

he still would have been a tremendous underlay

gales0678 · #**182** 05-07-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Summer Colony a pole!

I would have loved to see Calvin stay on Mine That Bird. However, any rider will do as long as they win the Preakness.

PEOPLE, DO WE WANT A TRIPLE CROWN WINNER THIS YEAR????????

How about we give the mount back Chantal Sutherland. She won on Mine That Bird 3 times!!!! She deserves the chance. She knows the horse. Let's go Chantal, Let's go...

why not , the headline can read the filly beats the filly

Rootdog1 · #**183** 05-07-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I don't have the patience ( or interest ) to read this entire thread, so forgive me if I'm repeating what has already been said, but I think it is a big mistake if they run Rachel Alexandra in the Preakness. To run her in a race she wasn't pointing for, so quickly after purchasing her, is a recipe for disaster. What's the hurry? If they really want to run in the TC then wait for the Belmont. Or else, run her in the Acorn or Mother Goose......and then the Whitney. Who exactly are the tigers she should be so worried about in there? Plus, it's four weeks before the Travers if they want to go there as well.

Wow, one the rare times where I agree 100% with with you. You must of read my other posts.

Danzig · #**184** 05-07-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

steve - look at JD bailey he won of the biggest races of the year one time without ever being on the horse and even being able to talk to the trainer

not all horses are difficult. it's important for a horse to have the ability to listen to the rider-it's the difference between a good horse and a really good horse. you have some with all the speed in the world, but if you can't control it, you have a horse like sinister minister...

Danzig · #**185** 05-07-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Forget the Preakness and the Belmont, why not have her ready for the Travers? I have no idea on this but how many times has a filly even tried the Travers, let alone won it, it can't be very many...

Now that would be historic (Given I am right about fillies not contesting the Travers)

http://www.nyra.com/Saratoga/Stakes/Travers.shtml

Link is a historic view of the Travers, are there any fillies on there?

i wouldn't mind seeing her in the travers. there's a long enough break from next saturday to the august race...should she win in md, i don't see why they couldn't attempt the other.

Danzig · #**186** 05-07-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

fat - look at how he closed in the KY Derby , just like Secretariat

I hope that these horse don't get ruined like the one's that ran against Big Red in the TC
remember Sham in the Belmont , he was like a little kid out there running against Big Red , if Mike Smith doesn't botch this next Sat , i think we could get a TC winner this year fat

lmao!!!

ruined in the tc.....like forego? omg

Danzig · #**187** 05-07-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

when the gates opened all the horses had their chances , 1 fired 18 others did not - surely he must get credit for that

as for IWR and QR - we will never know

Dunkirk was right there against QR but could not be found in the derby

IWR got beat by POTN - 2 times - you going to tell me IWR was going to run the same figures he did at AQU on fast tracks on the muddy surface at CD?

why does he get credit for 18 who didn't fire? he got lucky. getting lucky doesn't mean he was good.

gales0678 · #**188** 05-07-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

why does he get credit for 18 who didn't fire? he got lucky. getting lucky doesn't mean he was good.

was it a great race by mtb - yes or no?

surely the jockey helped but did the rail / slop really make him win by 7

if that race was another 1/4 he wins by DD ! he was pulling away it , he was much the best, and if he repeats next sat then what will you say?

Danzig · #**189** 05-07-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sdjcom

Well they sell the horse out from under him, he has a shot to win triple crown(yes i said a shot not sure thing). MTB people trusted in him and he got another Derby under his belt, A triple Crown Bid and he sells out the Bird people, i'm disappointed he didn't stick by his guns and stay on Bird. The filly is great but it's a matter of principle. Has any jockey in history come off a horse by choice who was alive for TC? Borel will live to regret this no matter how many he wins with RA. Cheap shot by him, but i know it's a business, but TC try means more to me than riding a Super Filly. He may never get another shot @ TC and besides, those two derby rides he won i think he's no better than many other jockeys. Calvin Borel no class and a sell-out imo.

lol
he sells out the bird people? he got them a derby win. gimme a break. why should he stay on a horse because he lucked out and won, knowing the chances of him repeating that performance while the rest of fields tanks again are incredibly slim?
live for the tc....

Linny · #**190** 05-07-2009, 10:29 PM

Has a jock ever gotten off a Derby winner to ride a different horse in the Preakness?

I can't imagine it happening in the "modern era."

Sightseek · #**191** 05-07-2009, 10:30 PM

Wow, like no one has asked this exact same question today!

HaloWishingwell · #**192** 05-07-2009, 10:33 PM

your answer is midway down
http://drf.com/news/article/103602.html

Danzig · #**193** 05-07-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

was it a great race by mtb - yes or no?

surely the jockey helped but did the rail / slop really make him win by 7

if that race was another 1/4 he wins by DD ! he was pulling away it , he was much the best, and if he repeats next sat then what will you say?

that i hope there's a burlington coat factory in hell.

Linny · #**194** 05-07-2009, 10:34 PM

Sorry, I was working for a living, not reading every post on DT... Thank you Halo...

Danzig · #**195** 05-07-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny

Sorry, I was working for a living, not reading every post on DT...

King Glorious · #**196** 05-07-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Wow, like no one has asked this exact same question today!

And like it hasn't been answered a couple of times. I know because I answered it one of those times.

1945. Hoop Jr.

blackthroatedwind · #**197** 05-08-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

he still would have been a tremendous underlay

Broken clock theory proven.

sumitas · #**198** 05-08-2009, 01:37 AM

Just ignore any distractions or questions about Rachel running in the Preakness . Jackson knows best .

TitanSooner · #**199** 05-08-2009, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Linny

Sorry, I was working for a living, not reading every post on DT... Thank you Halo...

MisterB · #**200** 05-08-2009, 03:21 AM

Forgive me but, wasn't the 10 million a long term investment? No need to be a Rags, and never race again. Goes to show you, some people have more money than brains