The Dedgradation of the American Dialogue

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

whoopsadiddle...

Nice catch! Nothing like finding the hypocrisy in the same thread no doubt.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

also noticed on 'Most Dangerous Catch' one of my favs, that the captains were reporting never seeing ice so far south like they did this past winter but what do they know? No lab coats you know.....

I find it hilarious that in your attempt to "disprove" global warming, you have given two examples that scientists not only predicted, but you used examples that are now considered absolutely confirmatory that global warming is happening at a faster rate than feared 20 years ago

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I find it hilarious that in your attempt to "disprove" global warming, you have given two examples that scientists not only predicted, but you used examples that are now considered absolutely confirmatory that global warming is happening at a faster rate than feared 20 years ago

Hormones!!!!!!!!!

[dellinger63]

remember in my lifetime and for sure your's when scientists were predicting another ice age?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

whoopsadiddle...

Actually the posters that are labeled liberals on this board are in fact admitted liberals except for Riot who refuses the designation.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Actually the posters that are labeled liberals on this board are in fact admitted liberals except for Riot who refuses the designation.

And we all know you only have two political designations - your opinion, and everyone else who is a liberal, a damn liberal, or a stupid liberal

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

And we all know you only have two political designations - your opinion, and everyone else who is a liberal, a damn liberal, or a stupid liberal

What is telling is that the label of liberal clearly bothers some.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Actually the posters that are labeled liberals on this board are in fact admitted liberals except for Riot who refuses the designation.

So you do not mind being labeled conservative bordering
on reactionary.

Im joking about the reactionary part of course

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And you are not only a liberal...you are a flaming liberal.

I don't know much about anything other than Cleveland sports...but with the extreme liberal media that exists, when exactly did the word "liberal" become a bad thing?? Something so bad, that nearly every single democrat today runs screeching at fear for being called a "liberal". This is a word thrown out all the time meant to be a demeaning thing. Why exactly is that??

What is a liberal?? The media has been called "liberal". What does that mean? Was William Buckley liberal simply because he wrote newspaper articles?? Is this Glenn Beck guy liberal because he is on TV and radio?? Rush Limbaugh is a liberal because he does a radio show?? Because by classic definition, the media is absolutely controlled by these liberals. I mean completely controlled. I could go on with Sean Hannity and others. But if these guys are by strict defnition liberals...who are the conservatives within the media?? So Rachel Maddow and Michael Savage are the same because both are media entities??

I have great trouble understanding these discussions in this section which is why I never post in this section. The media is a liberal construct. Educate me.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I find it hilarious that in your attempt to "disprove" global warming, you have given two examples that scientists not only predicted, but you used examples that are now considered absolutely confirmatory that global warming is happening at a faster rate than feared 20 years ago

I find it amazing you think that setting records for 'the coldest June' since records have been kept is somehow indicative of global waming happening at a faster rate than feared 20 years ago!!!

Not quite as amazing as you thinking "Obama has a strong interest in, and understanding of, the myriad of complexities involving the various countries in the middle east. Tribal relations, power struggles, economics, historic, religious, etc. Carter had (and has) the same. Both "get it"

and with that strong interest and understanding of Tribal relations, power struggles, economics, historic, religious, etc. Carter has come to the conclusion that the persecution of the Palestinians now,(by Isreal) under the occupying territories—under the occupation forces—is one of the worst examples of human rights deprivation that he knows. Worse than Rwanda.

Though!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What is telling is that the label of liberal clearly bothers some.

Just because it seems you can't post here without some one slapping a label on you

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I find it amazing you think that setting records for 'the coldest June' since records have been kept is somehow indicative of global waming happening at a faster rate than feared 20 years ago!!!

Climate is a long time construct. Weather is a short time construct. Even in centuries long periods of global warming or cooling on any particular day or month you will have locations that will be either "warmer" than normal or "colder" than normal within those short time constructs within the long "climate" time construct.

Global warning is a controversial topic. But to take short time periods that are in opposition or in support of the long term "climate" change position on either side is ridiculous. The positions that both sides take in this are pretty comical. Like Hurricane Katrina was the product of global warming...very silly. Like a cold Chicago June is proof that global warming is not occuring...very silly.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

when exactly did the word "liberal" become a bad thing??
This is a word thrown out all the time meant to be a demeaning thing. Why exactly is that?.

Here's the Sarah Palin campaign stop test:

What does not fit with "liberal"?
A. Muslim
B. Terrorist
C. Media
D. American

Now, the saddest thing I saw, the other day, was some media wonks making Hitler out to be a liberal. So they could associate Obama with him. It was pathetic these people had access to public airways.

Frankly, I think that people today simply are not very educated, and throw words out there whether they fit or not.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Here's the Sarah Palin campaign stop test:

What does not fit with "liberal"?
A. Muslim
B. Terrorist
C. Media
D. American

Now, the saddest thing I saw, the other day, was some media wonks making Hitler out to be a liberal. So they could associate Obama with him. It was pathetic these people had access to public airways.

Frankly, I think that people today simply are not very educated, and throw words out there whether they fit or not.

tsk, tsk.......so much hyperbole...so little time!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Just because it seems you can't post here without some one slapping a label on you

I am on the right side

[Riot]

find it amazing you think that setting records for 'the coldest June' since records have been kept is somehow indicative of global waming happening at a faster rate than feared 20 years ago!!!

Because it does, Dell. As do the guys on your show noting that ice is appearing in fishing and shipping lanes it never used to. Go learn something basic about climate change.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Global warning is a controversial topic..

Not really, not any more. This isn't 10 years ago. Very few scientists with any national standing or international standing say it doesn't exist anymore. The overwhelming consensus is that it's very real, it's here, and it's happening far faster than we thought. The question is how much man can influence it or attenuate it. Go to nationalgeographic.com and enter "global warming", they've had some good articles with all sides discussed.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Not really, not any more. This isn't 10 years ago. Very few scientists with any national standing or international standing say it doesn't exist anymore. The overwhelming consensus is that it's very real, it's here, and it's happening far faster than we thought. The question is how much man can influence it or attenuate it. Go to nationalgeographic.com and enter "global warming", they've had some good articles with all sides discussed.

thousands of scientists,plus the founder of the Weather Channel say global warming is BS!

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

thousands of scientists,plus the founder of the Weather Channel say global warming is BS!

Find me 10. You might be able to find a few that are unsure whether global warming is man-made or naturally occurring but you won't find anyone denying that it is occurring.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Find me 10. You might be able to find a few that are unsure whether global warming is man-made or naturally occurring but you won't find anyone denying that it is occurring.

man made cottage industry........