Egypt

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think it maybe be 358. but yeah, let's worry about the resolution number, rather than the subject.

I would have never asked for a correction on the bill number if I wasn't planning on reading it. And I never was really worried.

BTW if a clause is in there stating a hospital refusing treatment to a dying woman, in an emergency, if part of that treatment terminates a pregnancy, is legal, it's embarrassing. Though I suspect this is some sort of huffington hyperbole based on exemptions for catholic hospitals.

[dellinger63]

Just read the bill (it's short) and low and behold my suspicions were correct. I will take it over to the appropriate thread.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Doreen thinks:


Ah. Then I'll put you clearly into the religious bigot category.

So you think a religion that treats women as poorly as the Muslim religion does is a good one?

Its probably the worst religion going... though they all have major issues.

[Antitrust32]

Disclaimer so I'm not thought to be a bigot:

The only Muslims that I hate are the 100,000,000 Muslims that support a radical version of Islam and support the jihad.

I dont have a problem with the other 900,000,000, as long as they treat a woman they same as they treat a man.

With that said, it is not a good book at all though.

But I feel that the Old testiment is a bad book also... right up there with the Quran.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Oh, please, the drama you create is too much - you were not compared to Hitler, and you know it.



Hate? Naw. Unlike you, I don't care what other people's religions are. I am completely intolerant of overtly stated religious hate and bigotry. Yes, indeed. Had enough of that crap. As have most other Americans. But you are free to have the "last word".

lol

sometimes you post just like Nascar... though there are bigger words in your posts.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

that's the thing, what egypt has begun may turn out to be a good thing. that's why we have to do everything we can to nudge them in the right direction, which they seem to be doing already. keep them on track, get a positive outcome-and others will follow.
instead of us propping up dictators, we should have been encouraging stuff like this all along. our foreign policy has been a disgrace for years, now we can set things aright. i hope.

one thing is true. George Bush II understood all this.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

one thing is true. George Bush II understood all this.

Another thing that rings true is Obama hasn't a clue.

The diplomats at the State Department view the Egyptian crisis through the lens of American strategic interests in the region, its threat to the 1979 peace accord between Egypt and Israel, and its effects on the Middle East peace process.

Makes a lot of sense, you know looking out for American Strategic Interests and all ^^^^^^

Meanwhile and here’s where it gets scary.

Workers in the West Wing also worried that if Mr. Obama did not encourage the young people in the streets with forceful, even inspiring language, he would be accused of abandoning the ideals he expressed in his 2009 speech in Cairo.

So did the voters who sided with Obama expect him to act on his ideals expressed in a speech or for American strategic interests?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13/wo...ewanted=2&_r=1

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

So you think a religion that treats women as poorly as the Muslim religion does is a good one?

Its probably the worst religion going... though they all have major issues.

No, I don't think a religion that treats women poorly is a good one - like how some Christians dictate what a woman can do with her body. But that has absolutely nothing to do with the post you quoted. A more telling relationship would be you thinking that all Muslims treat women poorly. That's pretty right on. You're in the category, too.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I would have never asked for a correction on the bill number if I wasn't planning on reading it. And I never was really worried.

BTW if a clause is in there stating a hospital refusing treatment to a dying woman, in an emergency, if part of that treatment terminates a pregnancy, is legal, it's embarrassing. Though I suspect this is some sort of huffington hyperbole based on exemptions for catholic hospitals.

I'm amazed you dismiss something as false with absolutely zerio direct knowledge of what you are talking about

Wait: no, I am not amazed. Sorry.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Just read the bill (it's short) and low and behold my suspicions were correct. I will take it over to the appropriate thread.

Well, no. Your suspicions were not correct

[Riot]

Disclaimer so I'm not thought to be a bigot:

The only Muslims that I hate are the 100,000,000 Muslims that support a radical version of Islam and support the jihad.

Can you explain how you arrived at the figure of 100,000,000?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, no. Your suspicions were not correct

I did as you always request before being requested and opened a new thread. And yes they were correct.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I did as you always request before being requested and opened a new thread. And yes they were correct.

Well, okay. You keep thinking that

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, I don't think a religion that treats women poorly is a good one - like how some Christians dictate what a woman can do with her body. You're in the category, too.

Your comparison between the treatment of muslim women and christians dictating what a woman does with her body is very telling. Those christians (you speak of) feel as though abortion is murder and their religion tells them so. Believe it or not their motivation is not in controlling women but preserving a life. Personally I think they should be responsible for themselves but can understand them not wanting their money to be used in what they consider a murder. Unlike their muslim counterpart they are not trying to tell a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. They also don't kill their daughters to preserve their honor and certainly don't circumcise their little girls. Though some Christians admittedly do insist on marrying a virgin.

But yea I see how you think they are similar

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Your comparison between the treatment of muslim women and christians dictating what a woman does with her body is very telling. Those christians (you speak of) feel as though abortion is murder and their religion tells them so. Believe it or not their motivation is not in controlling women but preserving a life. Personally I think they should be responsible for themselves but can understand them not wanting their money to be used in what they consider a muder. Unlike their muslim counterpart they are not trying to tell a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. They also don't kill their daughters to preserve their honor and certainly don't circumcise their little girls. Though some Christians admittedly do insist on marrying a virgin.

But yea I see how you think they are similar

You didn't understand what I said. Again.

My comparison was that I think all religions put strange controls on their adherents, and some in all religions use their religion to treat women poorly.

My comparison was not that I think what some Muslims and what some Christians do are similar or equal in "badness", it was not a comparison of relative requirements between two different religions.

Unlike their muslim counterpart they are not trying to tell a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. They also don't kill their daughters to preserve their honor and certainly don't circumcise their little girls.

I assume you are aware that millions and millions and millions of Muslims do not do that? That much of what you list is extreme and not followed by the majority? That what you list is not representative of most of Islam?

And Dell, when you take a quote I make, and you cut out the middle, it is courtesy that you indicate to other readers that you have taken two separate sentences and strung them together randomly, with you changing the meaning of what I've said, because you've left out whole sentences.

Like this:
"No, I don't think a religion that treats women poorly is a good one - like how some Christians dictate what a woman can do with her body." [snip] "You're in the category, too."

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You didn't understand what I said. Again.

My comparison was that I think all religions put strange controls on their adherents, and some in all religions use their religion to treat women poorly.

My comparison was not that I think what some Muslims and what some Christians do are similar or equal in "badness", it was not a comparison of relative requirements between two different religions.

the comparison was similar to a drop of water in my sink and the Pacific Ocean. It made little sense and was obviously used to bash christians and that has become sort of a theme for you recently.

[Riot]

[quote]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

the comparison was similar to a drop of water in my sink and the Pacific Ocean.

Bashing Muslims, are you?

It made little sense to me and was obviously used to bash christians like I bash Muslims and that has become sort of a theme for you to copy me recently.

FTFY

[dellinger63]

[quote=Riot;752313]

Bashing Muslims, are you?

Yea but not the religion just their actions like: telling a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. Killing their daughters to preserve their honor and circumcising their little girls. That's all for now.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, I don't think a religion that treats women poorly is a good one - like how some Christians dictate what a woman can do with her body. But that has absolutely nothing to do with the post you quoted. A more telling relationship would be you thinking that all Muslims treat women poorly. That's pretty right on. You're in the category, too.

no ma'am.

I'm in the realist category that you preach about high upon your pulpit.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Can you explain how you arrived at the figure of 100,000,000?

through research. I've posted all sorts of research on it in another thread months back. You are welcome to look for it, I dont have the time right now.

it is certainly not a number that I just pulled out of my ass.. and it may not be a 100% correct number, but it is right around the correct #.

I should write APPROX 100,000,000 Muslims.