LSU vs Bama

[Danzig]

42 unanswered points. unreal. they're like a horse that doesn't leave the gate well-but once they get in stride, you better look out.


mathieu named mvp-figured it was between him and hilliard. this team has some depth. i'm loving it.

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by Danzig

42 unanswered points. unreal. they're like a horse that doesn't leave the gate well-but once they get in stride, you better look out.


mathieu named mvp-figured it was between him and hilliard. this team has some depth. i'm loving it.

It is unreal how they win. Big plays on defense and special teams, impeccable kicking, Jefferson is pretty much a non-factor. They just hang around the first half and when its over, they are up by 30 every time. I feel for Lee, but the fact is they dont really need him in there. Within the last few days, information has come to light about why Lee hasnt hit the field and it make some sense to me. He may not be academically eligible past midterm, thus the full-time switch to Jefferson.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Didn't Ohio St beat Arkansas last year in the Sugar Bowl? I believe that was a matchup of the number 2 Big Ten Team against the number 2 SEC team.

ask msu if the ever want to see Bama again? i think NOT!

[Danzig]

alabama has to be holding it's breath waiting to find out if they get in...or did ok st do enough in their drubbing of oklahoma to leap to #2, and the title game?

[BigBlue]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

ROLL TIDE! enough said.

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

I missed this gem.

Originally Posted by ddthetide

did you expect anything less from a freaking barner?

Hate to interrupt this little love fest between the two of you ... but I'm not sure I could take another "game of the century."

I'm glad the SEC does so well - and I hope LSU wins the title game. I don't think it should be against Alabama. Bama had their chance to beat this team and didn't. At home, no excuses. They're a one loss team - just like Stanford and Oklahoma State. Didn't even play in the conference championship.

Would much rather see LSU/OSU or LSU/Stanford

If Bama were to win the rematch, then what? Oh, I know - we wouldn't have to be subjected to watching Bama frat boys crying in the stands and being consoled by their girlfriends - that was embarrassing.

Les - I'm not sure what you're thinking - but you're about the only LSU fan that I'm aware of that thinks a rematch is the right thing to do.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by BigBlue

Hate to interrupt this little love fest between the two of you ... but I'm not sure I could take another "game of the century."

I'm glad the SEC does so well - and I hope LSU wins the title game. I don't think it should be against Alabama. Bama had their chance to beat this team and didn't. At home, no excuses. They're a one loss team - just like Stanford and Oklahoma State. Didn't even play in the conference championship.

Would much rather see LSU/OSU or LSU/Stanford

If Bama were to win the rematch, then what? Oh, I know - we wouldn't have to be subjected to watching Bama frat boys crying in the stands and being consoled by their girlfriends - that was embarrassing.

Les - I'm not sure what you're thinking - but you're about the only LSU fan that I'm aware of that thinks a rematch is the right thing to do.

les is probably putting himself in nicks shoes...had we been the loser of that 9-6, we'd want a rematch for sure!

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by BigBlue

Hate to interrupt this little love fest between the two of you ... but I'm not sure I could take another "game of the century."

I'm glad the SEC does so well - and I hope LSU wins the title game. I don't think it should be against Alabama. Bama had their chance to beat this team and didn't. At home, no excuses. They're a one loss team - just like Stanford and Oklahoma State. Didn't even play in the conference championship.

Would much rather see LSU/OSU or LSU/Stanford

If Bama were to win the rematch, then what? Oh, I know - we wouldn't have to be subjected to watching Bama frat boys crying in the stands and being consoled by their girlfriends - that was embarrassing.

Les - I'm not sure what you're thinking - but you're about the only LSU fan that I'm aware of that thinks a rematch is the right thing to do.

I think Bama is the only team that can beat LSU, and vice versa. It may not be fair for us to have to play them again, but a matchup against Stanford or OSU will end up a double digit victory.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

LSU vs. BAMA II, January 9, 2012. Like it or not its coming. Les is still sitting on the plays in the back of his playbook.

Just like when I started this thread, I like LSU again. Not sure I love them as 3-5 point favorites though.

[slotdirt]

I'd rather see whatever happens betwixt LSU and Ok State than see another field goal suckfest.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I'd rather see whatever happens betwixt LSU and Ok State than see another field goal suckfest.

i like to think it wouldn't be...but who knows?

[Calzone Lord]

How does a team who failed to qualify for a confrence championship game get to play in the national title game?

I really don't care if they're one of the two best teams... or the best one-loss team.

If you finish 2nd out of 6 in a division of the SEC -- you have no business playing for a national title.

Stupid.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

How does a team who failed to qualify for a confrence championship game get to play in the national title game?

I really don't care if they're one of the two best teams... or the best one-loss team.

If you finish 2nd out of 6 in a division of the SEC -- you have no business playing for a national title.

Stupid.

Dont you know the sec is far superior to all other conferences and all other teams. No non sec teams would stay within 14 of lsu or alabama.

[DaTruth]

Folks, look on the bright side. This ends the SEC's perfect record in the BCS championship game.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

How does a team who failed to qualify for a confrence championship game get to play in the national title game?

I really don't care if they're one of the two best teams... or the best one-loss team.

If you finish 2nd out of 6 in a division of the SEC -- you have no business playing for a national title.

Stupid.

the system is supposed to produce the two best teams for the title game. if they're the best two, and it seems you agree that they are, what more is there to say?
should alabama be punished because it's in the same conference and division as lsu? that seems somewhat unfair, doesn't it? it wouldn't be right to exclude a team solely because of where it plays. if it's the 2nd best team, it's the 2nd best team.
lsu is the only no loss team. bama has one, in ot-which gives it a better record than any other team in the top 20 except okla state. however, bama's ot loss was to lsu, whereas ok st lost in ot to iowa state, who has a 6-6 record.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the system is supposed to produce the two best teams for the title game. if they're the best two, and it seems you agree that they are, what more is there to say?
should alabama be punished because it's in the same conference and division as lsu?

Certainly they appear the two best teams -- but that's the system that the conference championship game should produce.

Why did Georgia need to play LSU last week? Boise State ran circles around them.

The National Title game should be determined by an 8-team tournament where each conference is represented by a single champion.

SEC, ACC, Pac 10, Big 10, Big 12. Big East are the six automatic confrences whose champion always gets represented.

The other two playoff slots go to the two highest ranked Champions among: Conference USA, Mountain West (TCU), WAC (Boise State), MAC (they have a good team once every 5 years) or an Independant such as Notre Dame.

The regular season would be more important -- the confrence championship games would all be more important -- and the playoff would be interesting.

Seed the highest against the lowest. 1 hosts 8. 2 hosts 7. 3 hosts 6. 4 hosts 5. Championship game played at select venue.

Pretty. Fucl<ing. Simple.

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Certainly they appear the two best teams -- but that's the system that the conference championship game should produce.

Why did Georgia need to play LSU last week? Boise State ran circles around them.

The National Title game should be determined by an 8-team tournament where each conference is represented by a single champion.

SEC, ACC, Pac 10, Big 10, Big 12. Big East are the six automatic confrences whose champion always gets represented.

The other two playoff slots go to the two highest ranked Champions among: Conference USA, Mountain West (TCU), WAC (Boise State), MAC (they have a good team once every 5 years) or an Independant such as Notre Dame.

The regular season would be more important -- the confrence championship games would all be more important -- and the playoff would be interesting.

Seed the highest against the lowest. 1 hosts 8. 2 hosts 7. 3 hosts 6. 4 hosts 5. Championship game played at select venue.

Pretty. Fucl<ing. Simple.

you lost me at Notre Dame

[horseofcourse]

Without a playoff, a 1 loss SEC team deserves to play for it period over any other 1 loss team. Boise State, Wisconsin and Oklahoma State all had their shots and blew it...end of story. Short field goal miss...again, Hail mary's two straight weeks, Iowa freaking State. The two best teams are playing for the National Championship which is the design of the BCS. It got it right. There needs to be an 8 or 16 team playoff however like all other NCAA divisions.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Certainly they appear the two best teams -- but that's the system that the conference championship game should produce.

Why did Georgia need to play LSU last week? Boise State ran circles around them.

The National Title game should be determined by an 8-team tournament where each conference is represented by a single champion.

SEC, ACC, Pac 10, Big 10, Big 12. Big East are the six automatic confrences whose champion always gets represented.

The other two playoff slots go to the two highest ranked Champions among: Conference USA, Mountain West (TCU), WAC (Boise State), MAC (they have a good team once every 5 years) or an Independant such as Notre Dame.

The regular season would be more important -- the confrence championship games would all be more important -- and the playoff would be interesting.

Seed the highest against the lowest. 1 hosts 8. 2 hosts 7. 3 hosts 6. 4 hosts 5. Championship game played at select venue.

Pretty. Fucl<ing. Simple.

ga played because they won the sec east. the sec is divided into two divisions, much like other conferences. it doesn't always produce the two best teams in the conference in the championship game, much like other conferences...witness oregon vs ucla the other day for example.
the system you advocate above would preclude alabama from playing. how would that be 'fair'? some conferences produce teams who don't stack up vs other conferences ( southern miss anyone? big east winner?), which would mean some champs who don't belong in the finals would be in automatically while deserving teams ( such as alabama, who wouldn't be in the finals as you suggest them) would be left out.

currently, the system brings in the top teams in the bowls, conference championships notwithstanding.

the current system isn't perfect; but neither is what you just suggested. every game currently does count, which is why okla state is on the outside looking in.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Without a playoff, a 1 loss SEC team deserves to play for it period over any other 1 loss team. Boise State, Wisconsin and Oklahoma State all had their shots and blew it...end of story. Short field goal miss...again, Hail mary's two straight weeks, Iowa freaking State. The two best teams are playing for the National Championship which is the design of the BCS. It got it right. There needs to be an 8 or 16 team playoff however like all other NCAA divisions.

i can see a valid argument for okla st getting in over alabama. but people have gone to the lowest common denominator on the two teams single loss. bama to lsu, os to a 6-6 team. but people need to look at the overall schedule of both teams.
did they still choose correctly? computers had ok st higher based on strength of schedule.

wisc lost twice.
boise st needs a tougher schedule. honestly, i was hoping boise would go perfect and come to la for the title game so lsu could shut that crap up once and for all..

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i can see a valid argument for okla st getting in over alabama. but people have gone to the lowest common denominator on the two teams single loss. bama to lsu, os to a 6-6 team. but people need to look at the overall schedule of both teams.
did they still choose correctly? computers had ok st higher based on strength of schedule.

wisc lost twice.
boise st needs a tougher schedule. honestly, i was hoping boise would go perfect and come to la for the title game so lsu could shut that crap up once and for all..

I don't care what the computers say. Alabama's better. I saw Alabama play LSU. The difference in that game was a better field goal kicking unit by LSU which is part of the game without question. That's it. If you told Gundy before the season all you need to do to play for the national championship is beat Iowa State, he'd take it....tell Chris Peterson all he has to do is make a 35 yard field goal against TCU he'd take it. They both failed. the end.