Go Israel

Originally Posted by Independent George

Why is that you can pose an either/or question when one supports an ally of this country in its fight against Islamic Fascism ? When FDR went to the aid of Great Britain while they were trying to stave off Nazi aggression, would you have asked FDR if he is a "real American" or if his loyalties were to England or the US ? WE support our allies (except for Jimmy Carter who wouldn't even give the Shah of Iran a "pass" to get medical treatment in this country, when it was Iran...yes Iran...who was one of our strongest allies during the Vietnam war), and we support our allies because it BEHOOVES us to...it is beneficial to our well-being also..and that's being a REAL AMERICAN.

No being a REAL AMERICAN means taking care of other Americans first. Support Israel if you want but the $100 billion that we have given them to create a military should have been used to help Americans first. Israel isn't a poor country, they can afford their own military.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

You are either horribly uninformed or just a complete liar...make your pick. Liar or idiot. Our president obviously chose "idiot" and i bet you will do the same.

Before i dissect all of this other garbage, i will suggest you read a number of articles but most importantly the recently released Nixon dialogues where it is in bold letters how the US did indeed deal with Mobutu and did have interest in congo/zaire.

Now, everyone, It is proven. Brooklynite is either a liar or an uninformed idiot!



And if anyone doubts me, here is the link!

Enjoy.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/frus/nixon/e6/67173.htm

I want to watch this guy try to spin out of this one. Hilarious.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

You are either horribly uninformed or just a complete liar...make your pick. Liar or idiot. Our president obviously chose "idiot" and i bet you will do the same.

Before i dissect all of this other garbage, i will suggest you read a number of articles but most importantly the recently released Nixon dialogues where it is in bold letters how the US did indeed deal with Mobutu and did have interest in congo/zaire.

Now, everyone, It is proven. Brooklynite is either a liar or an uninformed idiot!



And if anyone doubts me, here is the link!

Enjoy.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/frus/nixon/e6/67173.htm

Da-ta-da-ta-da-ta-da ... Da-ta-da-ta-da-ta-da [sound of the cavalry charge] Da-ta-da-ta-da-ta-da ... Da-ta-da-ta-da-ta-da .... !!!

Yup ... right on cue ... here comes the cavalry to try to save the day. But ... sorry ... you're little pal has been beaten to an intellectual pulp ... the only thing you can do is put him on a litter ... and have a medic do his best. And make that a Jewish medic.

And just take a look at this "evidence" of our "involvement" with the Congo ... a memo to a lackey to ... maybe ... give some chump change to Mobutu so he can pay this month's electric bill.

Hey, buddy .. memos like this are written every day about every country ... that's how the paper pushers in the State Dept. justify their jobs. The odds are about 200-1 against Nixon ever having seen this piddling paperwork.

It was probably signed by Rosemary Woods after she changed the tapes in the Oval Office recording machine.

[Sheesh ... now you surely can understand, my friends ... what utter losers these guys are. "Dumber" gets in trouble ... and "Dumb" tries to bail him out ... only he falls into the vat of chicken fat too!]

Originally Posted by Independent George

Aw c'mon, BB, don't tell me you're not working with Koko, here.

Hmmm ... do you think?

Maybe you're onto something.

"Koko Goes On The Derbytrail" ... yeah ... might be a good vehicle for Jim Carrey.

Originally Posted by boldruler

No being a REAL AMERICAN means taking care of other Americans first. Support Israel if you want but the $100 billion that we have given them to create a military should have been used to help Americans first. Israel isn't a poor country, they can afford their own military.

Do you see, George ... do you see what I mean?

It's really no use ... you're trying to teach differential equations to a chimpanzee ... no way it can be done.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Da-ta-da-ta-da-ta-da ... Da-ta-da-ta-da-ta-da [sound of the cavalry charge] Da-ta-da-ta-da-ta-da ... Da-ta-da-ta-da-ta-da .... !!!

Yup ... right on cue ... here comes the cavalry to try to save the day. But ... sorry ... you're little pal has been beaten to an intellectual pulp ... the only thing you can do is put him on a litter ... and have a medic do his best. And make that a Jewish medic.

And just take a look at this "evidence" of our "involvement" with the Congo ... a memo to a lackey to ... maybe ... give some chump change to Mobutu so he can pay this month's electric bill.

Hey, buddy .. memos like this are written every day about every country ... that's how the paper pushers in the State Dept. justify their jobs. The odds are about 200-1 against Nixon ever having seen this piddling paperwork.

It was probably signed by Rosemary Woods after she changed the tapes in the Oval Office recording machine.

[Sheesh ... now you surely can understand, my friends ... what utter losers these guys are. "Dumber" gets in trouble ... and "Dumb" tries to bail him out ... only he falls into the vat of chicken fat too!]

it took you this long to come up with THAT?????

Look at the spin. Just look at the spin.

YOU made the CLAIM that the US was not involved in CONGO. Whitehouse Documents claim that you are WRONG.

So...WERE YOU LYING OR JUST UNINFORMED?????

Dont spin....

Just answer the question.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

I notice you conveniently left out every country I mentioned ... where we backed a dictator against communist aggression ... then after we defeated communism ... we helped Taiwan, South Korea, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, and El Salvador become free democracies.

You did mention Nicaragua ... but to what end? We helped defeat the communists and it's now a free democracy ... did you prefer a different outcome ... and what would that outcome have been?

Congo? Are you serious? That was a Belgian colony which never even made it on our radar. We never had ... and never wanted ... any influence there.

Idi Amin? We always worked against him ... and now Uganda is an emerging democracy. Another successful strategy and outcome. What would you have preferred?

Pol Pot? He was a murderous communist whom we worked against ... but unfortunately we couldn't prevent from coming to power after the communists swept into South Vietnam ... after our Democrat Congress shamelessly abandoned our allies by completely cutting off our aid.

How about Iran? That was a case where numbskull Jimmuh abandoned a pro-western dictator ... the shah ... and handed the country over to the fanatical mullahs ... and the entire world has been paying a horrible price ever since. Doncha think that staying with the shah would have been better than the idiotic strategy of Jimmuh ... the worst president we've ever had?

And Vietnam? Another horrible mistake of not backing a pro-western Christian dictator ... Diem. Did I say not backing him? Hey .. the idiot Kennedy had him murdered! Again ... was not backing a pro-western dictator in South Vietnam a good idea?

Yes, my friend ... there are times when choosing the lesser of two evils yields beneficial results ... South Korea, Taiwan, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, El Salvador ... and other times when NOT backing a dictator leads to even worse results ... Vietnam, Iran.

You do see that now ... don't you?

now which is brooklynite? Liar or uninformed?

Just answer the question...no spin.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

I notice you conveniently left out every country I mentioned ... where we backed a dictator against communist aggression ... then after we defeated communism ... we helped Taiwan, South Korea, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, and El Salvador become free democracies.

You did mention Nicaragua ... but to what end? We helped defeat the communists and it's now a free democracy ... did you prefer a different outcome ... and what would that outcome have been?

Congo? Are you serious? That was a Belgian colony which never even made it on our radar. We never had ... and never wanted ... any influence there.

Idi Amin? We always worked against him ... and now Uganda is an emerging democracy. Another successful strategy and outcome. What would you have preferred?

Pol Pot? He was a murderous communist whom we worked against ... but unfortunately we couldn't prevent from coming to power after the communists swept into South Vietnam ... after our Democrat Congress shamelessly abandoned our allies by completely cutting off our aid.

How about Iran? That was a case where numbskull Jimmuh abandoned a pro-western dictator ... the shah ... and handed the country over to the fanatical mullahs ... and the entire world has been paying a horrible price ever since. Doncha think that staying with the shah would have been better than the idiotic strategy of Jimmuh ... the worst president we've ever had?

And Vietnam? Another horrible mistake of not backing a pro-western Christian dictator ... Diem. Did I say not backing him? Hey .. the idiot Kennedy had him murdered! Again ... was not backing a pro-western dictator in South Vietnam a good idea?

Yes, my friend ... there are times when choosing the lesser of two evils yields beneficial results ... South Korea, Taiwan, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, El Salvador ... and other times when NOT backing a dictator leads to even worse results ... Vietnam, Iran.

You do see that now ... don't you?

Liar or uninformed? Come on...Just answer the question.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

it took you this long to come up with THAT?????

Look at the spin. Just look at the spin.

YOU made the CLAIM that the US was not involved in CONGO. Whitehouse Documents claim that you are WRONG.

So...WERE YOU LYING OR JUST UNINFORMED?????

Dont spin....

Just answer the question.

Bwahahahahahaha ... I guess the joke's on me!

I thought you were Dumb ... and the other guy was Dumber ... but ...

... silly me ... you're both Dumber !!!

Ohmigod!

I just noticed ... Dumber keeps responding to himself!

Yeah ... I guess he's spent too much time with that inflatable doll.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

I notice you conveniently left out every country I mentioned ... where we backed a dictator against communist aggression ... then after we defeated communism ... we helped Taiwan, South Korea, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, and El Salvador become free democracies.

You did mention Nicaragua ... but to what end? We helped defeat the communists and it's now a free democracy ... did you prefer a different outcome ... and what would that outcome have been?

Congo? Are you serious? That was a Belgian colony which never even made it on our radar. We never had ... and never wanted ... any influence there.
Idi Amin? We always worked against him ... and now Uganda is an emerging democracy. Another successful strategy and outcome. What would you have preferred?

Pol Pot? He was a murderous communist whom we worked against ... but unfortunately we couldn't prevent from coming to power after the communists swept into South Vietnam ... after our Democrat Congress shamelessly abandoned our allies by completely cutting off our aid.

How about Iran? That was a case where numbskull Jimmuh abandoned a pro-western dictator ... the shah ... and handed the country over to the fanatical mullahs ... and the entire world has been paying a horrible price ever since. Doncha think that staying with the shah would have been better than the idiotic strategy of Jimmuh ... the worst president we've ever had?

And Vietnam? Another horrible mistake of not backing a pro-western Christian dictator ... Diem. Did I say not backing him? Hey .. the idiot Kennedy had him murdered! Again ... was not backing a pro-western dictator in South Vietnam a good idea?

Yes, my friend ... there are times when choosing the lesser of two evils yields beneficial results ... South Korea, Taiwan, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, El Salvador ... and other times when NOT backing a dictator leads to even worse results ... Vietnam, Iran.

You do see that now ... don't you?

Liar or uninformed? How about UNINFORMED LIAR????????

Just in case anyone forgot, read the bold and then check out the link.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/frus/nixon/e6/67173.htm

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Ohmigod!

I just noticed ... Dumber keeps responding to himself!

Yeah ... I guess he's spent too much time with that inflatable doll.

First you got caught cutting and pasting and now you get caught making false statements and writing about things of which you have no clue.

So...

Liar or uninformed?

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/frus/nixon/e6/67173.htm

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Bwahahahahahaha ... I guess the joke's on me!

I thought you were Dumb ... and the other guy was Dumber ... but ...

... silly me ... you're both Dumber !!!

Oh my freaking goodness.

This is a 65 year old man.

You would think he was an eight year old child.

My image of this buffoon is a cross between Dr. Smith (Lost in Space) and Milton Berle (doing one of his drag queen bits).

He may be 65 years old but I would bet dollars to dimes that he still bites his fingernails.

[Independent George]

Originally Posted by boldruler

No being a REAL AMERICAN means taking care of other Americans first. Support Israel if you want but the $100 billion that we have given them to create a military should have been used to help Americans first. Israel isn't a poor country, they can afford their own military.

So FDR was NOT a REAL AMERICAN, because he sent millions in aid to Great Britain when he could have used those millions to feed the poor in this country; to help the farmers devastated by the Depression and the Dust Bowl.
I think I get your drift now.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

I notice you conveniently left out every country I mentioned ... where we backed a dictator against communist aggression ... then after we defeated communism ... we helped Taiwan, South Korea, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, and El Salvador become free democracies.

You did mention Nicaragua ... but to what end? We helped defeat the communists and it's now a free democracy ... did you prefer a different outcome ... and what would that outcome have been?

Congo? Are you serious? That was a Belgian colony which never even made it on our radar. We never had ... and never wanted ... any influence there.
Idi Amin? We always worked against him ... and now Uganda is an emerging democracy. Another successful strategy and outcome. What would you have preferred?

Pol Pot? He was a murderous communist whom we worked against ... but unfortunately we couldn't prevent from coming to power after the communists swept into South Vietnam ... after our Democrat Congress shamelessly abandoned our allies by completely cutting off our aid.

How about Iran? That was a case where numbskull Jimmuh abandoned a pro-western dictator ... the shah ... and handed the country over to the fanatical mullahs ... and the entire world has been paying a horrible price ever since. Doncha think that staying with the shah would have been better than the idiotic strategy of Jimmuh ... the worst president we've ever had?

And Vietnam? Another horrible mistake of not backing a pro-western Christian dictator ... Diem. Did I say not backing him? Hey .. the idiot Kennedy had him murdered! Again ... was not backing a pro-western dictator in South Vietnam a good idea?

Yes, my friend ... there are times when choosing the lesser of two evils yields beneficial results ... South Korea, Taiwan, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, El Salvador ... and other times when NOT backing a dictator leads to even worse results ... Vietnam, Iran.

You do see that now ... don't you?

So the coward's way out once again. Liar or uninformed?

The link one more time


http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/frus/nixon/e6/67173.htm

Originally Posted by Independent George

So FDR was NOT a REAL AMERICAN, because he sent millions in aid to Great Britain when he could have used those millions to feed the poor in this country; to help the farmers devastated by the Depression and the Dust Bowl.
I think I get your drift now.

George ... George ... George ...

... there is no drift ... it's just sand being thrown in the air at random ... just like Koko would do.

There's no thought ... there's no reason ... there's no concern over self-contradiction ... there's no sense of shame or embarrassment ...

... there's simply no "there" there.

[dalakhani]

[quote=Bold Brooklynite]George ... George ... George ...

... there is no drift ... it's just sand being thrown in the air at random ... just like Koko would do.

There's no thought ... there's no reason ... there's no concern over self-contradiction ... there's no sense of shame or embarrassment ...

... there's simply no "there" there.[/QUOTE]

My thoughts exactly.

Liar or uninformed?

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/frus/nixon/e6/67173.htm

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

I notice you conveniently left out every country I mentioned ... where we backed a dictator against communist aggression ... then after we defeated communism ... we helped Taiwan, South Korea, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, and El Salvador become free democracies.

You did mention Nicaragua ... but to what end? We helped defeat the communists and it's now a free democracy ... did you prefer a different outcome ... and what would that outcome have been?

Congo? Are you serious? That was a Belgian colony which never even made it on our radar. We never had ... and never wanted ... any influence there.
Idi Amin? We always worked against him ... and now Uganda is an emerging democracy. Another successful strategy and outcome. What would you have preferred?

Pol Pot? He was a murderous communist whom we worked against ... but unfortunately we couldn't prevent from coming to power after the communists swept into South Vietnam ... after our Democrat Congress shamelessly abandoned our allies by completely cutting off our aid.

How about Iran? That was a case where numbskull Jimmuh abandoned a pro-western dictator ... the shah ... and handed the country over to the fanatical mullahs ... and the entire world has been paying a horrible price ever since. Doncha think that staying with the shah would have been better than the idiotic strategy of Jimmuh ... the worst president we've ever had?

And Vietnam? Another horrible mistake of not backing a pro-western Christian dictator ... Diem. Did I say not backing him? Hey .. the idiot Kennedy had him murdered! Again ... was not backing a pro-western dictator in South Vietnam a good idea?

Yes, my friend ... there are times when choosing the lesser of two evils yields beneficial results ... South Korea, Taiwan, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, El Salvador ... and other times when NOT backing a dictator leads to even worse results ... Vietnam, Iran.

You do see that now ... don't you?

Liar or uninformed? Come on- its getting fun watching you squirm as everyone on this site has now seen you for the FRAUD that you are.

Now, if you answer me, i can get to chopping up the rest of this sad piece.

In case you forgot, here is the link

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/frus/nixon/e6/67173.htm

See, George ... Dumber #2 has absolutely nothing ... but he really thinks he does!

He really thinks that a memo from a paper-pusher at Foggy Bottpm ... signed by a secretary or an AutoPen ... discussing chump change for a dictator who can't pay his electric bill ... and we don't even know if the chump change was actually given to the chump ... is a "significant event" ... which shows our mighty nation's "involvement."

And it doesn't help at all to point that out to him ... you've seen how hard I've tried.

He simply doesn't understand that memos like this happen thousands of times a day ... every day ... because its how the timeservers at Foggy Bottom ... and in our embassies and consulates all over the world ... justify their paychecks.

Yeah ... I'm sure Nixon was up all night wondering if Mobutu could pay his bills. Too funny ... and they don't even understand that the joke's on them.

P.S. Bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... I just noticed the date of the memo ... one month before Nixon had to resign ... yeah ... I'm sure he was really worried about Mobutu then ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... !!!!

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

See, George ... Dumber #2 has absolutely nothing ... but he really thinks he does!

He really thinks that a memo from a paper-pusher at Foggy Bottpm ... signed by a secretary or an AutoPen ... discussing chump change for a dictator who can't pay his electric bill ... and we don't even know if the chump change was actually given to the chump ... is a "significant event" ... which shows our mighty nation's "involvement."

And it doesn't help at all to point that out to him ... you've seen how hard I've tried.

He simply doesn't understand that memos like this happen thousands of times a day ... every day ... because its how the timeservers at Foggy Bottom ... and in our embassies and consulates all over the world ... justify their paychecks.

Yeah ... I'm sure Nixon was up all night wondering if Mobutu could pay his bills. Too funny ... and they don't even understand that the joke's on them.

Better spin but still proves you to be WRONG. Liar or uninformed?

Shall i get to the Idi Amin part?

Why dont you either admit your mistake or erase that pathetic passage? You look like a fool.

You claimed that the US had no interest in Congo and then you claim that official whitehouse documents are inaccurate. LOL.

So is it Liar, uninformed or uninformed liar?

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/frus/nixon/e6/67173.htm