Thank You Mine That Bird

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

How can you give someone grief for having an opinion on the outcome of the race yet you picked Hatton to beat Pacquiao?

We have another great event tomorrow.
Pac-man really looks good in training.

It would help boxing immensely if Pac won
and then took on Pretty Boy Floyd coming
out of retirement. Would break all PPV records imo.

I will take Hatton in this fight.
I will assume that the ref will allow holding and inside
fighting.

If Pacman gets to him early and often. I believe he can
put Hatton down. Despite the fact he beat a horrible
Oscar, I really think the guy is actually faster as he
gets bigger.

What really convinces me that Hatton can win is that
he was very good against the fastest fighter, maybe ever imho...
Floyd Mayweather.
Hatton actually piled on him early, but Floyd
was just way too crafty and fast, and the result was a late KO.
Hatton has faced the best. Pac-man will now face a very
good stronger fighter still in his prime.

Its not the same thing as saying if two horses had run, they would have beat the field by over 7 lengths on an absurd track.

And personally I am happy that I was wrong, as the winner
in that fight put on an incredible display. You read the thread
Coach, there is no distortion. I am happy for Pac man and it
will be a great event if he fights Floyd. Personally I enjoy
really good competition.

Its not even close to the same thing. I think you see that.

Now who was it that had a bad opinion that does not allow me to have a bad opinion?

Look it is well documented you take the weasel way out to cover your bad opinion. It doesn't changed the fact that you picked Hatton and it was a horrible pick. You should just take a week off from giving others grief for their bad opinions and marinate on why you picked that chav to beat the best fighter in the game right now. Was it his theme song? The thong?

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Look it is well documented you take the weasel way out to cover your bad opinion. It doesn't changed the fact that you picked Hatton and it was a horrible pick. You should just take a week off from giving others grief for their bad opinionsand marinate on why you picked that chav to beat the best fighter in the game right now. Was it his theme song? The thong?

What bad opinion did others give?

Before an even takes place, I do not know the outcome.
I am not a sage. So I do put other possibilites down.
Yes I was wrong. And I wrote down how I might be wrong
and nailed it. So because I am wrong about the ultimate outcome
I should stop posting. Kinda like you do. You go off and hide
for a week after you are wrong.

Originally Posted by pgardn

What bad opinion did others give?

Before an even takes place, I do not know the outcome.
I am not a sage. So I do put other possibilites down.
Yes I was wrong. And I wrote down how I might be wrong
and nailed it. So because I am wrong about the ultimate outcome
I should stop posting. Kinda like you do. You go off and hide
for a week after you are wrong.

You nailed it? Kinda like Hatton was nailed to the canvas in the 2nd round?

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

You nailed it? Kinda like Hatton was nailed to the canvas in the 2nd round?

If Hatton gets caught early, Pacman can put him on the canvas.
Did you see anyone predict Pacman in 2? Anyone that is sane?

I saw what he did to Oscar. And Hatton is smaller and insists on
coming straight forward. The ref warned him early for holding and
he immediately got nailed first round. The ref warned Hatton for holding
again. Hatton could not play his holding mugging game with the ref,
or with Pacman who hit him with lasers.

Seriously reread the whole post.

Did you think 2nd round knockout?

Now who was it that had opinion that prohibits me from having a bad opinion?

Originally Posted by pgardn

Stop staring at me!

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Stop staring at me!

Excellent.
Discourse finished.

And I am happy I could get you and
Hoss together again. Its a lovely relationship
akin to jock-itch. You guys can give each
other tongue now.

Vic awaits.

Now who was it that had opinion that prohibits me from having a bad opinion?

Not answered again.
The color... yellow.

"I pick Hatton but let me give you every possible scenario that could happen in case I am wrong. That way people on the internet won't think less of my expertise on being a ma...err boxing."

[horseofcourse]

I don't usually post on racing threads out of pure and unadulterated fear at what would be the ripping to shreds of my lack of knowledge, but I didn't pick Mine That Bird either. I guess I should try to figure out how I was correct in whom I picked and was more correct than everyone else who was also wrong??

yeah, comedy gold here for 13 pages. Every last one of you is.....

I can't keep up with the guy. He had two edits in that post alone. I know Hoss and I are sexy as can be but he needs to stop thinking about us making out and gather himself.

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I can't keep up with the guy. He had two edits in that post alone. I know Hoss and I are sexy as can be but he needs to stop thinking about us making out and gather himself.

Awwww.
How cute.
Making ammends for past differences.

Hoss do you take Pants to be your...

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If it wasn't for Mine That Bird's inscutable effort today, we would have seen three relative mediocrities hit the wire together in one of the slowest KY Derbies in modern history. Now, instead of endlessly hearing about how wonderful a horse Pioneer of the Nile is, and one that only synthetic haters failed to see the obvious greatness of, we can all scratch our heads as to how this otherwise " slow " horse could destroy today's field.

Why can't you admit that Pioneer ran a damn good race and was beaten by what most believed to be a hopeless longshot? He was the second best horse in the race, hardly the throw out you had been dissing all week.

Originally Posted by pgardn

Awwww.
How cute.
Making ammends for past differences.

Hoss do you take Pants to be your...

Now he's a priest. Well you figure being a priest and all he would've picked Pacquiao. Shame on you, Darden.

[HaloWishingwell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i was going by what his trainer said, that the horse makes one move.

before yesterday that one move was backwards

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Slewbopper

Why can't you admit that Pioneer ran a damn good race and was beaten by what most believed to be a hopeless longshot? He was the second best horse in the race, hardly the throw out you had been dissing all week.

Because it's not true?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

before yesterday that one move was backwards

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Slewbopper

Why can't you admit that Pioneer ran a damn good race.

He finished in a 3 way photo of honest running mediocraties.

POTN ended up being my 3rd selection in the paper here - mostly because he's honest and figured to possibly be almost as good on dirt as his mediocre synthetic form - even though he ran 2nd in the Derby I see nothing about his race that was "damn good"

Dunkirk and Freisan Fire - two horses I've spent a lot of time knocking the lst few weeks both ran too bad to be true - their races didn't prove anything.

[HaloWishingwell]

The race was a toss. The conditions were like no other that theses inexperienced three year olds ever faced. Besides the distance the track was a mess. The only so called horse with known off track ability was FRIESAN FIRE and he got questionable training from Jones. The rest of the field ran their normal race or subpar performance based on the conditions. MINE THAT BIRD apparently was the lone exception. He moved up enough to improve on his numbers while the rest suffered. As for PIONEEROF THE NILE. The race didnt answer anything about his dirt ability besides that he tries regardless of conditions. Say what you want he still beat the rest of the field. I could have lived with him winning. The time would have been slow, the figures low but at least on past performances he would have been more deserving. He just wouldn't have been annointed as the second coming and just like MINE THAT BIRD wouldn't have scared anyone off for the Preakness.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He finished in a 3 way photo of honest running mediocraties.

POTN ended up being my 3rd selection in the paper here - mostly because he's honest and figured to possibly be almost as good on dirt as his mediocre synthetic form - even though he ran 2nd in the Derby I see nothing about his race that was "damn good"

Dunkirk and Freisan Fire - two horses I've spent a lot of time knocking the lst few weeks both ran too bad to be true - their races didn't prove anything.

I'd like to know what the definition of damn good is ? Rachel Alexander's performance in the Oaks? If so that is an unfair comparison wouldn't you agree? No horse horse was going to look good after that. I'm not here to pick sides whether the pro POTN crowd was correct or the anti POTN crowd was correct. There seems to be alot of semantics flowing around, POTN didn't flop as many thought he would, nor did he run like a triple crown champion as others might want us to believe. The truth as always lies somewhere in between.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

He basically ran to his moderate but successful synthetic form.

The question of how well he would run on dirt was answered ... and the answer was just about as good as he runs on synthetic.